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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,252 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “MAGA is simple, one message and any republican who doesn't like it is called a RINO and is attacked by everybody until they shut up or face being politically and sometimes personally annihilated.

    There's a cult leader who can insult, belittle and blatantly lie about any republican politician or a member of their family and he doesn't get any push back.”


    You describe it accurately but it’s just struck me, you could equally have been describing the “Church” of Scientology in terms of how it operates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,092 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    There's a short video clip on The Independent site where Trump is in what seems to be a classroom with school children of below the age of ten, all seated behind desks. He sits behind one himself, with the POTUS crest fixed to it, front and centre where he and the kids sign individual EO's scrapping the Dept of Education, all using his type of "pen".

    It's included in a report where he's asking SCOTUS to slash teacher training funds in war on DEI.

    Unfortunately for him, the video has been edited from where he starts to sign the order to where his hand with the pen moves off the document, and is followed by him displaying his signed document.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭Economics101


    I hope the Democrats can focus on just a few clear messages and ram them into the consciousness of voters: 1. DOGE and the gutting especially of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, 2. Corruption Couuuption Corruption (so may spepcific and obvious examples one could give) 3. respect for the Constitution and the rule of law, which ought appeal to traditional Republicans who have not fallen for the MAGA nonsense.

    There may be other big issues, but these 3 should have wide appeal. And of course the Democrats should give up on the woke stuff. As for the treatment of women and minorities, get away from the identity-politics stuff, and focus on merit (which DJT claims to do !!!), and hammer home the message that discrimination on the basis or irrelevant characteristics is outlawed.

    Post edited by Economics101 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,302 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Abortion rights. They're still important and were in the last election, too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭Sigma101


    In order to replace the workforce of illegal immigrants, Florida is now looking at changing labour laws to allow children as young as 14 to work overnight shifts on schooldays.

    Each day the headlines are getting more and more bizarre.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,139 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    David McWilliams had a good take on tariffs at the weekend:

    "Tariffs allow second-rate local businesses to sponge off consumers, selling them second-rate goods when they could be buying superior imported stuff. In the end, tariffs take from buyers and give money to yellow-pack local producers who can’t compete in the international market. There’s a reason that low tariffs, which have been reduced continuously in the past 50 years, corresponded with the greatest expansion of the global economy ever seen."

    i.e. this is all about Trump forcing American consumers to buy locally made junk and tat instead of the option of buying good quality goods from abroad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,355 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Not necessarily true David Mc. Stuff can be of the same quality, but it will be more expensive as it costs more to make in US or the foreign government don't subside the manufacturing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,355 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    😃 😃 🤣

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭innuendo141


    The woman is basically a TV character. She know's this kind of stuff is what works for the cretins that vote for her. An absolutely septic joke of a person.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,297 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    It's just part of the circus. A handful are showing "concern" and are calling for an investigation. When it dies down, they'll fall back in line.

    They pulled this act with the insurrection attempt - then all one by one fell back into their default fealty position.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭golfball37


    The rest of the world just gets immigrants to fill this gap. Immigrant wages cost less and this is why many are sceptical when the benevolence element of policy is promoted rather than just flat out be honest.
    Angela Merkels Germany were short 1m menial labourers and it suited them to take 800k from Syria that time. It shouldn’t be imposed on countries who don’t need it or cannot accommodate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭Qaanaaq


    It won't be long before they bring back the chain gang and force welfare recipients to do manual labour for welfare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Yeah I expect the usual, announcements to placate politicians that arent followed through(have apple announced their annual billion dollar plan to build a new us plant and employ 2k workers?, is it the same one they announced during the biden admin?)

    Then nothing

    If pushed

    something token
    If pushed, wait for next term

    The whole thing is a bag of snakes, you cannot control the flow of capital.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    You mean us prisons? the largest incarceration rate in the world?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    He looks a bit youthful here, he is more of an old cow than a show hereford at this stage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭Qaanaaq


    Yes. I would expect them to use prisoners to work picking fruit and vegetables



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,302 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Considering what they're doing with their secret police/ICE immigration enforcement, where people are whisked off the streets and sent to 'centers', without anything resembling due process, and those centers are private prisons by and large, imposing labor on them can't be far behind.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/18/canadian-actor-jasmine-mooney-detained-mexico-border

    Also, seems like the private facility in question was not in good financial shape in November, but obviously business has picked up:

    (https://archive.ph/TQLWv)

    Nice quote: “Currently with the low population levels we cannot sustain this operation,” Chief Financial Officer Tim Kurpiewski said in the notice of non-renewal. “Also, as the election looms this may also play a critical role in the use of the facility, but we won’t know that until November.”"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭Economics101


    I'm old enough to remember when the Irish Car industry existed behind tariff and other walls, and the completely bad quality and choice which resulted. Tariffs may not be quite a dumb for a large country such as the US, but they are still pretty dumb all round, when applied in the way Trump is doing it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Daemonic


    Most of them are already working for cents per hour - https://www.epi.org/publication/rooted-racism-prison-labor/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,980 ✭✭✭yagan


    I was thinking about the Ford plant in Cork this morning, cars essentially arriving like an Ikea kit off a boat in cork, assembled with tyres added on from the Dunlop factory and bingo, Irish made Ford cars. I can imagine Ford doing exactly the same for their models built in Mexico and Canada for the US market, crate them up and assemble them in the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭Qaanaaq




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,543 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I don't know about USVI resident polls, but Puerto Rico has not asked for any change in their status. There have been repeated referenda on the matter (indeed, their party identities are based on that matter, not Republican/Democrat), but nothing with sufficient momentum for the PR government to ask Congress for admission as a State. However, "taxation without representation" is not a particularly valid phrase: One of the arguments against PR joining the Union is that if they do, then their residents will start getting hit with federal income tax. Territory residents do not have to pay it.

    DC is a bit similar, though they do pay federal taxes. There's a precedent for giving DC residents representation (retrocession) as happened with the residents of DC on the South side of the Potomac, but the remaining DC residents don't want to do that.



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    All them beautiful tariffs Trump is rolling out is also a form of taxation on the plebs



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,543 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Honestly, I don't see them doing that. It's not inconceivable that some of the manufacturers might move a line or two back to plants already operating in the US. The largest BMW plant in the world is in South Carolina (It might still be the largest plant of any make in the US), but it currently only builds SUVs, most of which are for export. It might make some economic sense to build some other US-popular vehicle like the 4-series if it has the space for it (3- series used to be built there), but I doubt many people believe that the tariffs will remain in place long enough for it to be worth the cost of building new factories and training people.

    Besides, that's just the assembly. I don't know if it's publicly stated where all the component parts for the SC plant come from: It's not just completed vehicles which are being subjected to tariffs, but parts as well, and so in order to avoid tariffs, they have to move the entire supply chain to the US. I think it's just going to be the case that cars will be more expensive for the next few years. Even the US marques aren't immune given how many of their models have production lines in Canada and Mexico.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭eire4


    The results of the poll last November in Puerto Rico. 57% voted to become a US state, 31% voted for independence and 12% voted for free association with the US. The governorship was also won by a pro state hood candidate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    More beautiful things:

    JUST IN - United States has suspended financial contributions to the World Trade Organization — Reuters

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us-suspends-financial-contributions-wto-trade-sources-say-2025-03-27/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,048 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Trump threatening further tariffs on the EU and Canada if they start doing increased trade with each other to avoid/negate tariffs with the US.

    Further evidence that he put so little thought into the idea of tariffs that he didn't seem to have contemplated that other countries might do that rather than just kowtowing to whatever Trump wanted. It's almost as if other countries also have an interest in protecting their own economies rather than everything just revolving around what the US decides to do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,782 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    can anyone explain this to dummy-me?

    So they can apply tariffs wherever, whenever they want?



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,543 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Yes, but PR has, quite maturely, I think, decided not to make any changes in status unless there is a pretty good consensus. They're not treating it like Brexit or Nice or whatever where "Aha! We have a 1% margin of victory, we're going to do this" makes a major change and results in, well, continued controversy.

    This most recent referendum is particularly weird, since the option of "continue as we are right now", which is the position of the territory's second-largest political party (PPD), was not on the ballot. What I'm wondering is if the ballot was an attempt to continue to marginalise a third group like the PIP by showing what people would think if "no change" were not an option. If so, it may have backfired. PIP holds under 10% of the legislature, but their position got over 30% of the referendum vote.



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