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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    The kleptocrats in charge know that stealing the wealth of even a crashed US economy would allow them to amass the greatest personal fortunes the world has ever seen.

    They win if Trump can somehow hold it together for the full term and beyond, they also win if the Democrats somehow overthrow gain back control in 2 years because they are pretty certain that the democrats will allow them to keep that stolen wealth

    They win if there is massive civil unrest and Trump uses it as pretext to successfully install himself as chancellor

    They only lose if there is a massive political uprising and the forces of democracy win

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭Field east


    are the Secretaries of State not there at the behest of the President. ?If he is gone and the ‘head is cure off’ are they all IMMEDIATELY ‘let go’?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Nothing in the Constitution originally mentioned any positions other than POTUS and VPOTUS.

    As for who is let go, nothing specified there, they all serve at the behest of the POTUS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭Field east


    I cannot get my head around all ‘ this ripping off’ by the states that the US was trading with ! Did the US not see what was going on and why. It was up to the US to make it attractive enough for the pharmaceutical , etc, industries to stay in the US . After all the US is free of EU regulations - it is totally independant as to what it wants to do re business, trading, etc.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,555 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Yes, we are massively overexposed to it. It may indeed give some pause for thought before any potential investment (I have no idea if any was on the horizon anyway), but the lead-time for any new manufacturing would most likely take it past the lifetime of this administration. I'd expect, as we have seen in some other industries, announcements of new investments in the US but whether they are followed through on is a different question.

    In the short term, medicines aren't exactly fungible products. This is just going to hurt Americans.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,392 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    The democrats have become to divided and too many factions to give a united voice.

    MAGA is simple, one message and any republican who doesn't like it is called a RINO and is attacked by everybody until they shut up or face being politically and sometimes personally annihilated.

    There's a cult leader who can insult, belittle and blatantly lie about any republican politician or a member of their family and he doesn't get any push back.

    There is no single democratic politician that has that much power within the party.

    Republicans all want the same thing, to become as personally wealthy as possible, pay as little tax as possible and not be interfered with by anybody else.

    MAGA followers think they will get this same privilege in their life not realising that the are the fodder to make the republican politicians rich.

    MTG does not give a fxxk about her constituency. Susan Collins hasn't ran a town hall in 20 years. Yet they still get voted to keep their positions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


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    The bull trap for short lived and down and down we go again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭Field east


    You are cherry picking. Will you please look at the other things that Biden did that were a bit more positive.. would it not be the case that whatever Biden did , they were done in a ‘more ordered’ , diplomatic way and no mention of Panama, Canada, Greenland , 🇬🇱 allies relationships remained VERY INTACT and the US. Under Biden - as was the whole of America And Russia was VERY CLEARLY in the opposite camp



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “MAGA is simple, one message and any republican who doesn't like it is called a RINO and is attacked by everybody until they shut up or face being politically and sometimes personally annihilated.

    There's a cult leader who can insult, belittle and blatantly lie about any republican politician or a member of their family and he doesn't get any push back.”


    You describe it accurately but it’s just struck me, you could equally have been describing the “Church” of Scientology in terms of how it operates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,868 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    There's a short video clip on The Independent site where Trump is in what seems to be a classroom with school children of below the age of ten, all seated behind desks. He sits behind one himself, with the POTUS crest fixed to it, front and centre where he and the kids sign individual EO's scrapping the Dept of Education, all using his type of "pen".

    It's included in a report where he's asking SCOTUS to slash teacher training funds in war on DEI.

    Unfortunately for him, the video has been edited from where he starts to sign the order to where his hand with the pen moves off the document, and is followed by him displaying his signed document.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Economics101


    I hope the Democrats can focus on just a few clear messages and ram them into the consciousness of voters: 1. DOGE and the gutting especially of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, 2. Corruption Couuuption Corruption (so may spepcific and obvious examples one could give) 3. respect for the Constitution and the rule of law, which ought appeal to traditional Republicans who have not fallen for the MAGA nonsense.

    There may be other big issues, but these 3 should have wide appeal. And of course the Democrats should give up on the woke stuff. As for the treatment of women and minorities, get away from the identity-politics stuff, and focus on merit (which DJT claims to do !!!), and hammer home the message that discrimination on the basis or irrelevant characteristics is outlawed.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Abortion rights. They're still important and were in the last election, too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭Sigma101


    In order to replace the workforce of illegal immigrants, Florida is now looking at changing labour laws to allow children as young as 14 to work overnight shifts on schooldays.

    Each day the headlines are getting more and more bizarre.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,329 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    David McWilliams had a good take on tariffs at the weekend:

    "Tariffs allow second-rate local businesses to sponge off consumers, selling them second-rate goods when they could be buying superior imported stuff. In the end, tariffs take from buyers and give money to yellow-pack local producers who can’t compete in the international market. There’s a reason that low tariffs, which have been reduced continuously in the past 50 years, corresponded with the greatest expansion of the global economy ever seen."

    i.e. this is all about Trump forcing American consumers to buy locally made junk and tat instead of the option of buying good quality goods from abroad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,282 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Not necessarily true David Mc. Stuff can be of the same quality, but it will be more expensive as it costs more to make in US or the foreign government don't subside the manufacturing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,282 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    😃 😃 🤣

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭innuendo141


    The woman is basically a TV character. She know's this kind of stuff is what works for the cretins that vote for her. An absolutely septic joke of a person.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,982 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    It's just part of the circus. A handful are showing "concern" and are calling for an investigation. When it dies down, they'll fall back in line.

    They pulled this act with the insurrection attempt - then all one by one fell back into their default fealty position.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,032 ✭✭✭golfball37


    The rest of the world just gets immigrants to fill this gap. Immigrant wages cost less and this is why many are sceptical when the benevolence element of policy is promoted rather than just flat out be honest.
    Angela Merkels Germany were short 1m menial labourers and it suited them to take 800k from Syria that time. It shouldn’t be imposed on countries who don’t need it or cannot accommodate



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Qaanaaq


    It won't be long before they bring back the chain gang and force welfare recipients to do manual labour for welfare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Yeah I expect the usual, announcements to placate politicians that arent followed through(have apple announced their annual billion dollar plan to build a new us plant and employ 2k workers?, is it the same one they announced during the biden admin?)

    Then nothing

    If pushed

    something token
    If pushed, wait for next term

    The whole thing is a bag of snakes, you cannot control the flow of capital.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    You mean us prisons? the largest incarceration rate in the world?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    He looks a bit youthful here, he is more of an old cow than a show hereford at this stage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Qaanaaq


    Yes. I would expect them to use prisoners to work picking fruit and vegetables



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Considering what they're doing with their secret police/ICE immigration enforcement, where people are whisked off the streets and sent to 'centers', without anything resembling due process, and those centers are private prisons by and large, imposing labor on them can't be far behind.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/18/canadian-actor-jasmine-mooney-detained-mexico-border

    Also, seems like the private facility in question was not in good financial shape in November, but obviously business has picked up:

    (https://archive.ph/TQLWv)

    Nice quote: “Currently with the low population levels we cannot sustain this operation,” Chief Financial Officer Tim Kurpiewski said in the notice of non-renewal. “Also, as the election looms this may also play a critical role in the use of the facility, but we won’t know that until November.”"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Economics101


    I'm old enough to remember when the Irish Car industry existed behind tariff and other walls, and the completely bad quality and choice which resulted. Tariffs may not be quite a dumb for a large country such as the US, but they are still pretty dumb all round, when applied in the way Trump is doing it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭Daemonic


    Most of them are already working for cents per hour - https://www.epi.org/publication/rooted-racism-prison-labor/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,715 ✭✭✭yagan


    I was thinking about the Ford plant in Cork this morning, cars essentially arriving like an Ikea kit off a boat in cork, assembled with tyres added on from the Dunlop factory and bingo, Irish made Ford cars. I can imagine Ford doing exactly the same for their models built in Mexico and Canada for the US market, crate them up and assemble them in the US.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Qaanaaq




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