Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

aloyisious · 25-03-2025 05:29PM

Questioning by Senator King of Tulsi Gabbard [DNI]: She said that she could attest that there was nothing classified in the text messages sent between the people in the conversation. After more questions, she told him he should ask the National Security Council. He reminded her that she was Director of National Intelligence and asked her "please release the contents of the text messages" sic: as she said they were not classified.

eightieschewbaccy · 25-03-2025 05:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297203#Comment_123297203

She also wouldn't clarify if she received the messages on her personal device.

Frank Bullitt · 25-03-2025 05:36PM

Wasn’t there a few posters who were celebrating the appointment of Hegseth and Tulsi? Where are they now?

Manic Moran · 25-03-2025 05:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123296698#Comment_123296698

No, it's not a 'wee snafu', but it's not a 'significant snafu' either. It's not likely to result in any seismic changes in how things are going to be done except maybe they'll be a little more careful about routing. I don't know why the CIA director felt the need to use the woman's real name regardless of the nature of the communications medium, and I agree, at first blush that was another self-inflicted wound. But the nature of the medium was still supposedly a point-to-point encrypted exchange between government devices so exchanging Confidential information on it shouldn't have been an issue. I do not expect this to stop. Also interesting is equipment like DMCC-S, a mobile 'phone (I believe a Samsung Galaxy, however they managed that) authorised to handle both Secret and non-secure material. I'm not important enough to have one, I have no idea how it works in practice and what the internal firewalls are for apps. I suspect, however, that folks like SecDef or the CIA director are.

Again, I expect that there will be hearings and investigations, and that we will find out the truth of much of it. But there's me being naive and thinking that the government's processes for such things works.

I agree with your second paragraph. The insults to Goldberg are immature and counter-productive, though that does seem par for the course for a lot of reactions to things that the current administration is making.

eightieschewbaccy · 25-03-2025 05:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297257#Comment_123297257

Government devices is in question, Gabbard wouldn't say if she was using a personal device or a government one. On top of that, they had the messages set to disappear when such communications are required to be kept indefinitely.

briany · 25-03-2025 05:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297184#Comment_123297184

What do you think the likelihood is that there will be free and fair elections in four years to even allow these responsible adults back in? To me, the odds look depressingly low.

US democracy only barely held in 2020 and that was with a chaotic ad-hoc attempt at hanging onto power. This time, MAGA are organised and hell-bent on staffing the US fed with loyalists up and down the card. God knows what he'll try to do with the Federal Elections Commission.

For Forks Sake · 25-03-2025 06:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123296030#Comment_123296030

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Qaanaaq · 25-03-2025 06:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297257#Comment_123297257

How could a journalist be added if it was a secure government platform? Its a massive security breach.

Nothing much will happen though, your right about that.

aloyisious · 25-03-2025 06:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297226#Comment_123297226

Me taking into consideration whom she works for, she probably told the truth that the contents of the messages is not classified.

Trump has said in the past that, as president, he can declassify classified documents so the easy way out for the texters is to show him them and: hey presto, problem solved, they are no/t [longer] classified no matter what the content of the texting is, no SNAFU by his Admin team. He might be pissed off but he'll vent on the media and, within 23 hours it'll all be "fake news". Expect another tariffs announcement or the Greenland visitors to create an issue for him to distract people from "the best of the best" latest screw-up. The very worst they can do is to invite in the Israeli tech people to instruct them on how to use the phones properly.

Cluedo Monopoly · 25-03-2025 06:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123296986#Comment_123296986

It's only as serious as the next idiotic move which should be along in 24 hours. People are now addicted to the "doom" and calamity of it all too and Trumps plays to that 24 news cycle of chaos.

EltonJohn69 · 25-03-2025 07:11PM

shouldn’t Trump be involved in the conversation about bombing another country ? Shouldn’t it be his final decision ? Apparently he knew nothing about the whole thing……

dasdog · 25-03-2025 07:46PM

We live in a surreal world where such a security breach gets dismissed as "there was no classified information". Utter gobshyte amateurs Trump has surrounded himself with.

MisterAnarchy · 25-03-2025 07:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297094#Comment_123297094

Its obvious that Russia is completely controlling the GOP ?

No it is not obvious and its not true.

People would want to take a look closer to home to see a circus, the antics in the Dail today make the GOP look like professionals.

Oscar_Madison · 25-03-2025 07:50PM

Given trumps response this evening blaming the technology and nothing happening Waltz, this was clearly a set up designed to just blast Europe - pathetic

Frank Bullitt · 25-03-2025 08:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297670#Comment_123297670

That is the worst red herring I have seen from you yet.

Cluedo Monopoly · 25-03-2025 08:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297675#Comment_123297675

And kill over 50 people.

astrofool · 25-03-2025 08:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297670#Comment_123297670

This is a bit bizarre whataboutery.

You did watch the congress sh1t show that lead to Johnson being elected? Politicians arguing about speaking rights is pretty much the height of decorum vs. the GOP right now.

Tulsi has been brought down to dunce cap level.

thatsdaft · 25-03-2025 08:32PM

https://apnews.com/article/consumer-confidence-economy-inflation-bd6ece8784efff205e2ab922bcb86958

eggcelent

Who would have thought that an administration that is determined (and promised!) to wreck the economy is wrecking the economy

dasdog · 25-03-2025 08:33PM

We live in a surreal world where such a security breach gets dismissed as "there was no classified information". Utter gobshyte amateurs Trump has surrounded himself with in very important roles and they are loyal but completely unqualified.

eightieschewbaccy · 25-03-2025 08:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297670#Comment_123297670

The antics in the dail are pretty tame in contrast to Trump choosing to crash the economy and a billionaire acting as an unelected president.... You must be very out of the loop if you believe what you're saying.

kyote00 · 25-03-2025 08:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297903#Comment_123297903

I was wondering last week what media frenzy would deflect from the fact the putin has basically told Trump to **** off, Isreal is bombing the **** out of Gaza again…economy is tanking…

Trump asleep at the wheel or on the golf course

Leroy42 · 25-03-2025 08:50PM

Exactly. Trump has had been made foolish and weak by Putin.

All those saying that Biden was terrible for not standing up to Israel, well Trump has laid down to have his tummy tickled.

And now and massive security breach with his supporters on here can only bring themselves to say it was unfortunate or probably not that important.

thatsdaft · 25-03-2025 09:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297958#Comment_123297958

All of those saying that about Biden have since come out of their closets and strangely ended up being full on supporters of Russia

There’s one in particular in parallel Russia thread who even tried to paint Russia as a normal democracy

The chances of an average normal person in Ireland being supportive of both is somewhere same as the chances of pigs flying past the Dublin spire

chasm · 25-03-2025 09:39PM

Jd has announced he intends to travel with his wife to Greenland. Quelle surprise.

Frank Bullitt · 25-03-2025 09:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123298262#Comment_123298262

Hopefully he is met with a nice protest to tell him and Trump what they think of all of this.

KilOit · 25-03-2025 09:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297903#Comment_123297903

He isn't a serious person

J Mysterio · 25-03-2025 10:07PM

The "visit" to Greenland is very sinister.

Why would the National Security Advisor need to visit Greenland? "We will take Greenland for our security".

Together with the Energy Secretary? 'We will take all your natural resources' presumably.

This bullshit from Vance: “speaking for President Trump, we want to reinvigorate the security of the people of Greenland because we think it’s important to protecting the security of the entire world.” Vance is a nasty little bully who seems to truly revel in being a position to dominate others. A coward.

They are not welcome.

The Greenland Prime Minister has accused the Yanks of foreign interference and has said “for the record, the Greenlandic government has not issued any invitations for visits, either official or private”.

Danish PM Mette Frederikson has said “It is clearly not a visit that is about what Greenland needs or what Greenland wants from a visit. Therefore, no matter how we twist it, it is a completely unacceptable pressure on Greenland, the Greenlandic politicians and the Greenlandic population, but it is also on Denmark and thus the kingdom.

Who needs enemies when you have an "ally" like the US? Just a disappointment Goldberg didn't stick around in the Signal chat to catch these cavalier bastards planning the Greenland invasion. **** the US.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/25/danish-pm-mette-frederiksen-condemns-us-pressure-greenland-visit

aloyisious · 25-03-2025 10:08PM

CNN will probably be accused of fake news again so that'll be nothing new from Trump & Co. It's reporting that several of the senior admin team in on the text chat and a senior GOP Senator are casting Pete Hegseth as the person who initiated the text chat. Conclusion is that Trump & Co think he is the least likely to be missed if thrown under the bus.

aloyisious · 25-03-2025 10:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123298262#Comment_123298262

Is Waltz off the "invite" list?

aloyisious · 25-03-2025 10:16PM

Distraction politics and "get the foot soldiers busy" move by Trump. He's signed a sweeping executive action to overhaul elections in the United States, including requiring documentary proof of citizenship to register to vote in federal elections and demanding that all ballots be received by Election Day. The order says the US has failed “to enforce basic and necessary election protections” and calls on states to work with federal agencies to share voter lists and prosecute election crimes. It threatens to pull federal funding from states where election officials who do not comply.

It would seem He and the GOP elders are also thinking of going even lower in dirty fighting, with Johnson and others allegedly thinking about scrapping part of the court system entirely, as they think it'll be useless making appeals against court rulings.

Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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