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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Again, all over the shop.

    Can you please acknowledge my specific point in relation to Nasdaq & Dow Jones and your message that the market has already crashed? No tangents please.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    The US markets hasn’t just crashed its and ongoing crash and unlike other times completely disconnected from other markets which if anything are rising as money is running away.

    That it hasn’t yet crashed more is a function of a lot of investors still being in denial stages themselves about what a shitshow trump admin is, i myself pivoted quickly to BRK.B and European stocks and us stocks I know done well in last recession

    And ended up being 10% up in last few months while everyone is living in fear of what trump will do next and sitting on losses wiping out months and in some cases years of their investing

    I am voting with my wallet my investments and my pension

    There is no upside with Trump, any delusions investors had that he will “just play golf for four years” have been shattered, there are some insane revolutionary ideologues on trump team and they are deliberately setting off scuttling charges below the waterline of SS America



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Ok finally we are getting somewhere. I have always felt the US stocks were a bubble (due to heavy borrowing since Covid) so not surprised they are down with the clown.

    Most large investors have a -10% trigger point sell so I am not sure where denial applies.

    Who exactly has lost years of investment returns? I told you 3 times that both indexes are up 6/8% year on year

    Q. Have you shorted the US indexes with the knowledge you have of future decreases?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    No I stay away from shorting and derivatives as my aim is to decrease risk over next few years and maybe come out the other side picking up whatever is left standing

    Best not roll in the mud with pigs and watch the sidelines for next while

    He hasn’t destroyed the US economy yet but I can’t remember an administration including his first one which has so deliberately set out to wreck everything in the economy, industry, education and society

    It’s batter down the hatches time

    Those who voted for Trump will be the ones who will suffer the most but I honestly have no empathy left, there hasn’t been this much cutting of noses since Brexit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    The problem with de-risking to cash/bonds/other is that tariff induced inflation will erode the value quickly. I really don't want inflation back. I am hoping he gets over his tariff obsession fairly soon.

    I think we will see a roller coaster on US markets but ultimately we are in a bear market now with the US empire in terminal decline.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,252 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    If the information in my link is correct, tourism income in America was at an all time high in Jan 2025- which makes for a great statistic going forward- I see already some posters here saying they’ve cancelled planned trips to USA- we know Canadians are likely planning staycations or other alternatives to the US. And countries are starting to issue warning notices around having your documentation in order at the border (which just makes sense)- except for the fact that your social media posts may well prevent you entering as we saw last week over someone criticising Trump online.

    I certainly won’t be heading stateside any time soon - but expect tempting low fair deals in the coming months if passenger numbers aren’t what they should be.



    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/tourism-revenues#:~:text=Tourism%20Revenues%20in%20the%20United%20States%20averaged%2013611.64%20USD%20Million,of%20Travel%20and%20Tourism%20Industries



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,415 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    i can't believe what I'm reading. Maybe it's cognitive dissonance and it's these spiels that give comfort. The market is always judged relative to the last high.if we went by your logic there would never have be a crash since you could always point to time when the market was lower. "There's no crash, sure the market was lower in 1930".

    The S&P 500 is down 7.9% on its high just a few months ago, which is just over 2% away from an official correction. All that's changed in that time has been the unveiling of Trumps policies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    Turns out it was Republicans who commissioned it.

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,168 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I actually think it looks like Bobby from King of the Hill...

    Screenshot_20250324-071742.png

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,782 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    that stock market price reminds me of the start of trumps media company

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    The S&P 500 is higher than it was in September 2024. This point isn't difficult. It has a long way left to fall to be a true market crash. That'sdaft was suggesting the crash had already happened. Some of that S&P high happened after the clown became president (peak 19 Feb). The US indices were hugely overpriced in my opinion. S&P 500 is still up 8.6% year on year. That's what the fund managers really care about. Some very rich people have a lost a lot of paper money but the market hasn't crashed.

    When we hit 20% losses, we are in a bear market. Not nearly there yet.

    Post edited by Cluedo Monopoly on

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,354 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Was Poilievre not a big Trump fan before the US election last November? Most western provinces Conservatives support US Republican ideals

    Carney called the election early a) as the Liberals now have momentum, b) Parties are legally spend-limited with attack/campaign adverts once an election is called.



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    The deficit is already worse than under Biden, and any “savings” DOGE slash and burn might incur is being wiped out and then some more by IRS collecting less and US russian (ha pun) into a recession

    And that’s before we even get to the bizzare ideas about defaulting on US debt coming out of Maro lago or potential for Fed to be destroyed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,415 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    What conspiracy theory is that? That MNCs can't find locals to fill vacancies and need migrants? That one?

    I suppose the fact that of the 8 largest visa sponsors in Ireland, 7 are US MNCs.

    There is no conspiracy though. It just exposed the lie that we are a highly skilled workforce. If it is even true that we are highly skilled, we do not possess the skills that MNCs want.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,252 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    The 1000s of government employees whose jobs were dumped? Is there an expected legal challenge and expected massive payout due as a result?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,091 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    There is a likeness there between Carney's position and Trump's position, don't you think?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,119 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Never underestimate the ability of the modern, so called, "conservative" to do the stupid thing and vote against the country's best interests though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,091 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious




  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Trump and MAGA have almost guaranteed now that Liberal party will be elected next month in Canada and has destroyed the secessionists and conservatives

    Canada is a democracy, while US has clearly fallen into a dictatorship without checks and balances

    Just like Brexit we now have another country where stupidity will lead to misery for the average person and just like Brexit it’s hard to have anymore sympathy for the idiocracy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,119 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    The second last one would make a genuinely great painting that should be hung everywhere.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,012 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    JD Vance on US news again saying that basically if Trump 'needs' Greenland for 'national security' that they will just invade it despite 'Europeans screaming at them'.

    Deranged.

    https://bsky.app/profile/irlagainstfascism.bsky.social/post/3ll4j7v6qns2e



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    That'll be a real "Rubicon" moment (US annexes Greenland).

    Unilaterally asserting US control/power there is being floated so much and so persistently by Trump and other members of the admin. in public, that as mad as it is, it does start to look more likely.

    It's fairly easy for the US to do it and noone can prevent them, but it should blow up US/EU and US/UK relations for good if it happens.

    I wonder will leaders of UK/EU members have the cojones for that, or will they look at their shoes and just try and pretend it isn't happening (and hope they aren't next for some similar US attentions), offer Denmark equivalent of thoughts and prayers as a reaction?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,331 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,114 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Employee rights are a lot less in the USA, so possibly a mistake to look at it through European eyes. And there'll be no super-strong civil-service union organising a massive protest or all-out strike.

    As for legalities it seems the vast majority of those released are on 'work probation' and aren't yet considered permanent employees. Probation seems to be different conceptually than we'd know it - for us after 12 months in the service you are no longer a probationer for the rest of your career. But in America it seems every move to a new department/role resets you to probation and thus lesser rights.



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Almost daily BBC podcasts think the crossing the Rubicon moment is much closer than that

    If he continues to ignore, attack and threaten judges despite being so publicly slapped down by chief justice Robert’s who theoretically has equal power to Trump

    Thats the point the US enters a full-blown constitutional crisis

    I wonder if the on thread members of US military will then uphold their oaths to the constitution or continue to roll along with Cheeto Mussolini on their road to serfdom trotting out “in just following orders” excuses



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Musk has been given unprecedented power that no unelected official has ever been handed. He will never face an election while Carney is. Musk's decisions are also further adding to the recession that Trump is kicking off.

    Noticeably I've yet to see you comment on the fact that Trump is currently sinking the US economy. I'm pretty sure you'd have been much more vocal if Biden had pulled any of this kind of ****.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,558 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    He was indeed, he isn’t doing a great job of leaving that behind now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,558 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Sure thing pal, maybe take a look at how many Irish people work at these places before you say something silly like this. Every job or employer needs migrants for roles, that’s nothing new.

    You’ve exposed nothing other than your ignorance on the topic.



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Even the economist has noticed the unholy union and alignment between the American and Russian Neo Nazis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,415 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    What ignorance, that MNCs here fill many vital roles with overseas talent because the skillset doesn't exist or there is not enough here? It's absolutely true.

    MNCs choose Ireland not because it's labour force is highly skilled. If it did they would need minimal numbers of essential skills visas.

    MNCs choose Ireland because it has a stable and well understood legal system along with and especially tax and labour policies that are favourable to business. The timezone helps too.

    The highly skilled workforce fib we tell ourselves hasn't been true since we abandoned light manufacturing here.



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