Come back Garron Noone! **Mod Warning in Post #654**

I'm not a mod, am I? So no I don't think I will. It's enough for me if posters who do go off-topic can avoid getting on their high horses to posters who are on-topic. 😁

And FWIW the moderator has said to stay on topic, so do you have anything to say about what Garron Noone actually said, or why it caused so much fury that he had to close his account?

Because it's still a puzzle to me.

I'd feel very sorry for the guy. He does seem wholly genuine and nice.

I was cynical about what would happen happen regarding his "celeb" peers openly backing him. Fair play to them there has been colossal support from all the influencer types and they've all shown a bit of credibility by backing him.

This won't open up any dialogue about immigration either way. We'll do as we are told but thankfully I think this also won't railroad Garron's harmless career.

I’d love anyone here claiming garron is attention seeking or being a big crybaby to ask themselves genuinely how much crap they’d listen to before enough was enough?

I’ve been on the receiving end of online abuse and commentary and it’s not something you will triumph against. You’ll never win. The people at this crap are relentless. They’ll never give up. Your only hope is to go to ground and wait for them to forget about you or get outraged by something else.

there seems to be a large cohort of people who deem it acceptable to behave uncivilised online but as has been said they wouldn’t dream of doing so in real life. Not one of the commenters would say that shite to his face.

Guys not attention seeking at all- he’s doing the exact opposite. He’s fecked off entirely for a while. He did the right thing.

I would have little to no time for either the far left or far right keyboard warriors on social media, but it would definitely be the case that the far right ones would be much more likely to fall foul of anti-discrimination laws, equality legislation, hate speech laws and so on.

In that sense, they are not exact opposites, even if they can both be quite extreme in their views.

In the case of Noone, I'm not sure it would be fair to say he was the victim of a massive social media pile on. Many of his critics were saying they were disappointed in him or that he shouldn't have said what he said etc, but very, very few were calling him a 'racist' or a 'bigot' or an actual member of the far right.

Haven't seen anyone say he is not entitled to his own opinion

Didn't suggest it was. Merely pointed out that I was replying to your post about McGregor.

Nope. At no stage did I ever say he isn't entitled to his opinions. In fact I said he is.

I hope he sticks to the comedy and singing.

It clearly wasn't a good idea, I'm sure most would agree, considering the shitshow now.

He is entitled to his opinions as anyone else. Stop making up stuff to attribute to posters.

Or, as he says, this has always been his opinion and still is.

He's no good to you now, so time to attack his character. The hypocrisy 🙄

Yes I'm glad they have his back

I'm disappointed that PK/TLLS said nothing

Victim blaming?

He shut down his accounts. I don't know why.

Perhaps he didn't want right wing elements latching into his video.

What remarks exactly?

What I saw was a lot of pushback against remarks attributed to him that he didn't even make, and some blaming of him for stuff that a few other people, mostly outside of the country, said. Including people who think it's shameful to have got even a kind comment from someone they hate so much that they can't bear to see any sign that she might feel some empathy for another human being.

That level of hate is bizarre. And then those same people profess not to understand why Noone might be concerned about possibly being on the receiving end of such vitriol.

Except he didn't did he? He said he wasn't saying that, because there were lots of factors.

But given that a number of immigrant have committed some terrible crimes, he's not wrong that immigration is part of an increased feeling of insecurity in many towns in Ireland. Is the overall rate of crime down over the past few years? I don't know. But his point was about people's feelings that they weren't "allowed" to express such concerns - and he's certainly been proven right in that.

His point was not "Ireland is f…d because of immigration" - it was that by making certain concerns unsayable, there a risk of pushing some people into the arms of the far right.

If he's wrong and people can say whatever they want without being abused and insulted, why did he have to close his account?