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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Read OP for mod warnings before posting*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,259 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    These people need to be vetted for viruses along with vetting for criminal records.

    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/health/ipas-centre-put-lockdown-after-31249425



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,231 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Tbh I'm beginning to think

    Good on ya, nobody else seems to be doing that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    I noted that you offered commentry as opposed to presenting anything verifiably factual.

    Going by the tone of what you've posted in response to me and others I don't see anything positive emerging from any continued interaction between us.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,077 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    It was a very balanced take though and I can't see why he got a backlash.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    So I will ask you again.

    What did I say that was factually incorrect?

    It's time for you to either step up and actually have a conversation instead of making claims with no evidence to back it up.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    I would contend that every piece of commentary you offered was based in an inaccurate biased an contrary position designed to illicit an angry response.

    As I alluded to previously I have no desire to pursue this conversation with you any further.

    I wish you well but I won't be responding to any more of your posts and will be adding you to my ignore list.

    Mod - warned for trolling

    Post edited by Leg End Reject on

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,034 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,615 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Mod: For Petes Sake is on a little holiday from the forum so please don't quote their posts.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,615 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Mod - also telling posters you're adding them to your ignore list or reporting their post is inflammatory and viewed as trolling.

    If you want to ignore someone just go ahead and ignore them, there's no need to announce it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,819 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I think if he wanted to wade into a politically charged issue he should have stood his ground when he was met with backlash. I don't get why some social media personalities only expect to receive constant praise online.

    Whenever he returnes to social media he will have to handle the criticism.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,259 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    They were mundane comments indeed, he was not not attempting to demonize immigrants as responsible for all the ills of the world, but also he also acknowledged their is concerns from normal people about the numbers.

    However in this era where nuance is dead, you get the online loopers on both sides misinterpreting him for their own reasons.

    He seems a nice enough lad, hope he comes back soon.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,576 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I feel like I’m living in a parallel universe here sometimes. Can someone share some evidence he was bullied or attacked for what he said?


    From what I can see, some anti immigration accounts picked it up and used it to support their own hatred. He shut down his social media to stop them.

    I can’t find any evidence of anything else happening but am happy to be corrected.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,576 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭jackboy


    It is true that until he comes out and makes a statement we don't know why he left social media. I'd expect a statement st some point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,034 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    What proof would satisfy you, as I have said, to me he was bullied off line

    What do you consider as bullying?

    Some of the comments and responses he got were vile and even intimidating, I am not sure if they can still be viewed maybe try having a look

    From looking online, I am not the only one who thinks it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    "The government does not allow people to express their concerns about that…"

    Immigration has been a dominant issue in Ireland for the last two years, despite the fact that it is well down the list of what people actually care about. Are you still going to peddle this line that no opinion is allowed? It's complete and utter nonsense.

    I'd go as far as saying anyone peddling this line that no opinions are allowed after the last couple of years are actively lying.


    It was literally only yesterday Ken O’Flynn, a newly elected TD in the Dáil, asked Simon Harris about the reported payments for Ukrainian car repairs (only asking a question, not even stating an opinion).

    What he got back from Harris was an extremely patronising response, with Harris almost throwing a tantrum that he should dare seek transparency and accountability for the public finances. Followed by a nice little dig at the end from Harris and his colleagues that he was merely dog whistling and shame on him.

    Oh, and the question wasn’t even answered. He either couldn’t or didn’t want to.

    *Edit, only saw afterwards when I posted this that the mods asked us not to quote this person’s posts.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,576 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    this is a response to both posts. I’d accept some evidence, any evidence, he was “branded a far right racist” by anyone. Screen shots. Links. Anything.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,389 ✭✭✭corkie


    @Brian? With his tiktok channel deactivated, It is hard to show what comments good or bad he got on the videos.

    I don't think he had a publicly declared 'Xitter' account so hard to search for accounts tagging him.

    So you would have to search for mentions of Him over the past 2 days or so! I had a quick look, but not interested in doing your research for you. I comfortable taking the media's reports of him been bullied offline, I assume they have done some research on the point.

    She said: "I'm so appalled. One of my favourite people to watch and follow on TikTok, I literally sit down every evening with my cup of tea and watch Garron Noone.

    "He's taking down all his accounts because he's been bullied off the internet.

    "People asked him for his opinion, he gave it and somehow people can't take it and go on this witch-hunt.

    "You're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't. Why are people twisting his narrative? He's not racist.

    "Whether you're for or against immigration, it's got nothing to do with race. People need to cop the f*** on."

    ~ Miriam Mullins » https://www.thesun.ie/tvandshowbiz/14917667/garron-noone-tiktok-instagram-eric-roberts/

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,576 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    All I can find is headlines stating he was subject to a backlash. But no evidence this backlash exists.

    I’m not asking you to do my research, but if you’re going to state an opinion then you should back it up.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭Terrier2023


    id say he shut his socials down for business purposes this will blow over but to engage in the maelstrom is not advisable as he had 4 million followers and its a good money spinner for him so he is gone to let the blue haired mob cool off on him with their hate. hopefully he will be bac k as he had a lot of high profile followers and this is not a good look for ireland to be bullying him off the socials for just saying its not going well in ireland its not a lie.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands


    Saw people disagreeing with him but didn't see any abuse or bullying. I reckon he saw the Tate brother etc throwing support behind him and bottled it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭Terrier2023


    Garron is a man who suffered from agoraphobia he has had his mental health issues i am sure he shut down the hate for his own welfare & his own mental health. . I hope he comes back 4 million followers is no mean feat & should not be thrown away lightly. But in the next stage he will have to stand his ground and say eff off to a few folks the socials require a bit of spine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,487 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    4 million followers is huge. I didn't realise that he had such a huge base. When he comes back online I suspect he'll lose a few due to his views on immigration but will probably replace those with even more who would be more aligned to his views I'd say



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭Terrier2023


    It was some of his actual fans who pressed him to comment on the White house visit of mcgregor and he was merely addressing their question on how he felt about it. He really was very in offensive with his comment



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,576 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I like the lad. I hope he comes back to review sandwiches.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,034 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,756 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    I saw both his videos on Instagram last night after they were made. There were literally scores of comments accusing him of being racist under both videos. As both of them are now deleted it's naturally impossible to provide physical evidence. Whether you choose to believe me or not i don't care but they were there for all to see.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 6,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    In my opinion, Garron Noone's short clip and the aftermath to it is a good summary of how bad the debate on this issue is.

    On the video itself I think there is a bit of a contradiction to begin with: he starts by stating that this is something that can't be discussed in short 40 seconds opinion clips and then proceeds to give us a 40 second opinion clip. Not sure what he was thinking. And though he was asked from his fanbase to comment on McGregor's visit, he wasn't obliged to do so, especially after his aforementioned intro. A key thing though is I don't think anything he said was offensive, which makes any extreme backlash he got unacceptable and despicable - and no, just disagreeing with someone isn't backlash if you can keep it civil.

    Alas, this is the social media world these days. And in this particular topic, the middle ground has been abandoned almost completely, vast majority of people are either completely pro-immigration or completely anti-immigration. And this entrenching of positions won't help find a way to improve the situation.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,202 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Mod: Warned for ignoring mod instruction

    Post edited by Necro on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭somuj


    Sandwiches paid for by the taxpayer or by the people paying tax?

    Mod - warned for trolling

    Post edited by Leg End Reject on


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