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Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 7,329 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 733 ✭✭✭epopnomis


    Flogas are going to lose a hell of a lot of customers…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,805 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    yes, just 12 days left to 'Le Crunch' and no sign of a new offer. Maybe the Flogas staff are too busy playing pool in their shiny new offices and we wont get it till next week. If nothing by next Monday then its off to Energia by the looks of it. No complaints there as their billing system and app are pretty user friendly. But also under no illusions that we will face a 10% price hike within a few weeks of signing up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 953 ✭✭✭POBox19


    I changed to Flogas/BWG from EI on April 5th, 2024. It took 6 working days, for the changeover to happen. The Flogas billing began on April 15th.

    Next Tuesday March 25th. will most likely be the optimal day to switch given that it takes a few days for the companies to do the transfer. You'll still have a 14 day cooling off period anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,811 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Would not recommend. They will charge you €50 if anyway possible.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,983 ✭✭✭bren2001


    The best day to make the switch is April 5th, the day after your contract ends. If you initiate the switch a day before that, you risk the €50 exit fee. FloGas will charge you that if you end up leaving a day early.

    Most times I switch, it takes 2-3 weeks to switch but its backdated to the day I initiated the switch. That's the day that counts.

    Remember, the cost of switching a day or two late is minimal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 953 ✭✭✭POBox19


    The contract ends on 31/3/2025 as it does for most others who signed up to the affinity deal last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,983 ✭✭✭bren2001


    Then the best date to switch is April 1st.

    Some people expire on the 31st, some people expire 12 months after the start of the contract. There's no way I could know which one you are. You mentioned April 5th so I used that date.

    None of the above changes the point which you are easily able to interpret. Switching early and trying to play the system isn't worth the risk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,190 ✭✭✭patrickc


    I rang flogas earlier, they offered me 26c a unit. I said I'll be moving so as energia is better value, she said I can't move until 1/4 and to call back on the 28th to see if there are any better prices then



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 7,329 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    I'll be waiting till 1st April, a few days on the **** rollover rate while they switch me is peanuts in the scheme of things, certainly less than a €50 break fee if they imposed it on me.

    Need to recheck the numbers but the Energia plan is pretty close to the Affinity rate I'm on now so won't be a massive jump for us anyway.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,435 ✭✭✭ablelocks


    was talking to cs rep this morning in Flogas. He said that a renewal email for BWG Affinity will be sent a few days prior to end of contract - he believes it will be a very good offer but didn't have details yet.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 7,329 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Renewed with FG at unit rate of .0809 inc vat and standing charge of .3769 its a variable rate

    This is just for Gas anyone got any better as have 14 days grace



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,435 ✭✭✭ablelocks


    he didn't specify - but they can only email to the address they have on file which in my case is a gmail….we'll just have to wait and see!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭Squiggle


    Customer support referred me to the FG website and told me to select " current customer " to see the rates I would move to which are 26.68c/kwh and €257.38 sc , both including VAT.

    As it stands now I will be moving to Energia on April 1st, unless something better arises in the meantime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭tommyjin83


    So I signed up to " Team Ireland 22% Gas & Smart Electricity 12 months €300CB"

    Thinking of getting out as there are better rates out there. I've already been billed twice for both the Gas and Electricity so have used up the €300 credits. But getting out now means a break fee of €100 (for both Gas and Electricy).

    Is it worth my while?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭autumnalcore


    Less than 12 months and they clawback the credit too at least in all the full terms and conditions I've seen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,811 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    14 days grace? to move back to previous provider.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Random Bloke


    My BWG deals with Flogas expire 25th March (Gas) and 31st March (Electricity). Other than the letters confirming the expiry of the contracts, and the wonderful news about their new head office, I havent had any contact. So I am working on the basis that I will be switching from them on the expiry dates.

    Just checked bonkers.ie to see what Gas deals are out there, and the best option seems to be a renewal with Flogas (28% Loyalty Discount). This is a variable tariff, but is at the exact same rate as the expiring BWG fixed rate deal (€151.19 standing charge and €0.08091 per kWh incl VAT). Obvious risk is that prices may rise, but otherwise seems OK.

    https://www.bonkers.ie/compare-gas-electricity-prices/flogas/RTJ4QM/loyalty-gas-28pc-existing-customer/

    I wonder if this is the renewal deal that they mentioned in the letter last month, but being offered via bonkers rather than directly to customers?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    already with fg so if I can 14 days will change



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭bonjurkes


    I think best approach is already decide what will be your new plan and keep waiting till 31st of March.

    if they send an offer till then (which I doubt) then we can consider it, else, we can call Flogas and ask for loyalty team to match the Axa Energia deal, if they can’t match it (most likely) then it’s time to move to Energia.

    I think customer support either doesn’t have to update info or giving vague answers to defer the question.

    I doubt Flogas will send an email with a brand new offer. Right now if you know the correct plan ids on their website you land to “premium offers” page which only accepts bwg, certa and possibly some other company named email addresses. Then it says offer is sent to the email address. So I doubt they will expose the numbers to public.

    so I guess its most likely time to say goodbye to Flogas



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,983 ✭✭✭bren2001


    your cost to break fee is effectively now €400 and not €100. They will claim their cashback from you as per their T&Cs.

    this is why I avoid cashback offers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭tommyjin83




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭BowWow


    Just out of contract with Energia on their Dual Fuel 26% Electricity Discount and 26% Gas Discount plan.

    Phoned and asked for their retention plan - was offered 27% Discount on both.

    I said their website was offering 32% Dual to new customers, their Axa offer was 35% Electricity and 34% Gas and the One Big Switch offer was 38% on Electricity alone or 32% Dual.

    They increased their offer to me to 30%. Said I'd stay for the 32% Dual. No! Moved supplier last night…

    (I can't understand their logic. Offer someone you don't know a 32% Discount. And offer an existing Customer, with a 24 month Direct Debit payment track record a 30% Discount).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭John arse




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭Comer1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭amdaley28


    I think in business terms it's called churn. It's built into their plan that they will lose customers every year but that that they will also gain new customers.

    Not enough people change, that's the problem.

    If more people were prepared to move they'd soon change their minds.

    A large percentage of people never move. They have this mistaken loyalty 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭sue97


    My daughter just bought an apartment with an activated smart meter. Does she have to stick to smart meter offers and if so has anyone any recommendations?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭migrant




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭Summer2020


    Currently on the Flogas deal expiring next week . I Have an MCC08 smart day night meter (no smart plan activated). curently paying approx 13c night and 25c day. I think I’d be better switching to Energia ev 4 hr window plan as I have a 10kw/h battery and while it’s nice to have full night hours , realistically I could fully charge my battery in that 4 hr window .

    I rang Flogas yesterday for their rates and they said they’re still working on them . Surely this can’t be right.

    Think I’m better off going onto a smart plan at this stage with 4 hr ev window. Anyone any thoughts on giving up the smart day night meter ?
    pretty much all my usage is night usage now anyway with the 10kw battery.



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