Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

Absolutely nothing to do with the party empowering him and those who voted for him though, right?

I read in BBC site a lot of shipping taking longer route to avoid Red Sea.

Doge has cut workers at the national weather service at a time when there's more frequent floods and extreme weather events .Doge has cut highly experienced staff these people are essential to maintain the complex systems that keep large Dams working properly and keep the water supply clean in parks and other parts of America

Doge is a very blunt instrument they cut 20 per cent of workers Doge staff are arrogant tech bros. They don't understand that some workers are highly trained to run complex technical systems like Dams . It's like you do,nt go to a hospital and sack surgeons and specialist medical staff that have trained for years in a specific area of expertise.

I read experts in wall Street are afraid to criticize trump even though they see he is tanking the stock market and pushing the economy into recession .

Doge is talking about fraud in social security they can save 500 million. What they mean they ,ll cut snap payments that provide food to low income families and cut all social security payments by over 500 million

Even before doge many media and gaming company's were laying off workers

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I wouldn't mind if the US made a move for Greenland. I can see the geostrategic benefit for not just the US but the west in general.

Obviously it would be better if it was handed over maybe in return for some money to Denmark and for the population themselves but if they don't want to engage and the US just went ahead and annexed it no one is going to do anything about it.

Greenland has a population of 57,000 people and thus really have no agency one way or another. All i'm saying is the US could annex it within a matter of hours (if even) if it wanted too. I'd prefer they paid Denmark off though. It would be the best outcome.

Look at a map and it's patently obvious why the west's only power would want to control the territory.

So, it's looking increasingly likely that Trump is looking to get the Ukraine war settled and will then begin the process of formalising relations with Russia and China, agreeing on global zones of control and create a new world order that is an authoritarian triumvirate, working hand in glove. Yalta 2.0

The US will control the territories of South America and the more general west.

Russia will control the territories of the former Soviet Union.

China will control east Asia and the wider Pacific, excluding Hawaii.

Seperate arrangements will probably be divised re: Africa.

By control, I mean more that the powers will agree not to meddle outside of agreed zones of influence and let each other do as they please within their geographic allocations.

Europe will be a collection of vassals. The powers will work in concert to undermine European cohesion so that they can not exert a major influence on the world stage. This will involve funding various anti-EU political groups and rescinding NATO protection.

We're already seeing this take shape. The phrase for European leaders visiting the White House has been "don't pss off Trump". Be servile, be submissive. We're already praying that he just won't be too hard on us all.

This is all going to get a fair bit worse before it gets better, so buckle up.

Just to be nice about it. No offence to Denmark but I would prefer the US governing Greenland in terms of western security. Denmark has no serious contribution to make in that regard.

Another option is to pay off the locals after they vote for "independence" from Denmark. Offer all 57,000 a couple of million dollars each. It would be good value for the resources there.

I suspect one way or another Greenland may be part of the USA before the end of the Trump term.

Let’s dissect this easily.

Denmark is a member of NATO, so in terms of western security, it’s probably better placed than America, which is being relatively hostile towards other NATO allies. So that falls flat.

Next, paying them off. Currently America is cutting costs, mainly to federal workers and veterans. But you think they’ll pay every citizen of Greenland money, like a bribe. So basically playing citizens of Greenland as fools, who would believe a word from Donald Trump right now? So that also falls flat.

I suspect, going off what Greenland has just voted for, and the complete lack of trust and general operations of the Trump presidency, that we will see pigs fly before Greenland is under control of the USA.

Your argument makes little to no sense.

How does a western country invading/annexing a western country help western security?

Using your rational, I suspect Greenland would be the 49th state, right after Russia annexes Alaska (or Trump sells it back for $73mil, He said it was the greatest deal ever, 10x times what the US paid for it, 9x profit) and California becomes an independent country (some say it's really Canada's 11th Province - but still under the remit of the 27th member of the EU (Canada) after Hungry was ejected). There was an issue after Trump renamed the wine valley in California as Champagne, so the US could still have cheap Champagne (those damn tariffs on the EU), but president of California Newsom, renamed it back to Wine Country and France dropped their objection.

But yeah Greenland may be part of the USA (I'd say SA, there's nothing united about it now) before the end of the Trump term (unless you mean if he goes with a monarchy and the Trump name rules for the next few decades?)

Doesn't make a difference, do you really think NATO countries would trigger article 5 against the US? And if they did, you would have to look at the structure of NATO to see who actually directs the troops and responses. The supreme allied commander is a US Army General, so he'd have to direct a NATO response against…… the US.

NATO is a paper agreement and the US's adherence to it under Trump would be close to nil. He already wanted to leave it in his last term.

A for the rest of the countries. They'd probably give some speeches and little else.

I think the emotional part was unnecessary