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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭Field east


    Trump goes to Putin with the Saudi agreement. Putin accepts it subject to getting agreement on a number of its own conditions. This then goes back to Saudi for consideration by the US/Ukr negotiators and is it back and forth then or what. Hard to saw because American can DO ANYTHING eg cherry pick from all the conditions put forward and BRING DOWN THE GUILOTINE



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,865 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    trump wont be playing silly buggers for too long. If Putin is insisting on completely unreasonable terms he’ll bring the shutters down fairly quick. Course then he’ll have to come up with plan b.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭Field east


    You are leaving out three MINOR considerations which must be considered and which may SLIGHTLY ALTER your opinion, namely :-

    (1) Putin is on record as saying that by far the most Catastrophic mistake and of major proportions was the break up of the USSR and that needs to be addressed - or words to that effect. War is the only way that RU would see to get have this addressed

    (2) Going back as far as 1939 when USSR/Russia attacked Poland , RU has initiated attacks on countries at least 14 (FOURTEEN) times - I wonder for what. This does not include its actions re election interference, cable cutting, supporting proxy wars, etc.

    (3) Calamari, will you please name here all the countries / times that RU / USSR have been attacked apart from Hitler



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    We have Trump threathening Poland today

    https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2025-03-11/poland-defiant-over-big-tech-tax-plan-in-latest-spat-with-us


    Sooner or later it dawn on the Polish that if Ukraine can go from ally to enemy in a few weeks over the invented in his own head slights of an old man, so can Poland and they are literally next in line on Russian shopping list, especially if someone worse than Trump like Vance endsup in whitehouse sooner or later

    All that equipment turned useless like happened to Ukraine and billions wasted instead of being used on things like mines and drones that have proven so effective against Russian barbarians and neo Nazis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    Do you realise what engines are in the Saab Gripen.

    https://meta-defense.fr/en/2025/03/04/failure-gripen-colombia-export-f414-trump/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    I always respect your posting here and perspective from other side of pond


    But you don’t see it but you are being slow boiled, I see the same with my American colleagues and family, they are being manipulated into ever more extreme positions on various topics often doing compete 180 degree U-turns

    Your arguments against Trump went from “our checks and balances will stop him” to “oh well the people have spoken” to now when asked if you will fight against Canada to “checks and balances up the chain of command will prevent that” which is funny as I thought Trump is at the top of the chain of your command

    Will you have to resort to “I was just following orders” argument when ordered to roll into Toronto let’s say ?

    This btw is exactly exactly what happened to Russians in 25 years of dear leader rule, they been slow boiled into invading what used to be their closest neighbours and often family and friends because an old man with too much power wanted to cosplay war



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,080 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    The Trump administration are just constantly spit-balling "deals" with the hope that something eventually sticks. They did it with Gaza, trade, and now Ukraine. It's hard to take anything that comes out of Washington seriously these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭Field east


    I would take all things from the WH very seriously. The saving grace is that it /they could be changed the following day to something differently type of ‘seriously’. The saving grace key point is to know which of the many utterances will Trump settle for He has , in a lot of cases. , put forward and lot of ‘ THOUGHTS to cherrypick from.
    we are very lucky that he can flip flop, do a 180 degree turn, etc, etc. on a lot of issues. He seems to be blowing HOT and COLD, leaning towards RU and apparently leaning mainly towards UKR, etc, etc. As he has the ABILITY to change his mind on a WHIM



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭Mywifetoldme


    The captain of a cargo ship arrested after a collision with a tanker in the North Sea is a Russian national, the ship's owner has confirmed.

    Humberside Police said the 59-year-old man remained in custody after being arrested on suspicion of gross negligence manslaughter on Tuesday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,525 ✭✭✭keeponhurling




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭junkyarddog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,865 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Kind of mad thing to do if it was deliberate though, a freelance special military kamikaze operation…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,350 ✭✭✭✭Say my name




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    This week we had RussianZ walk themselves into a freaking gas pipeline and straight into an ambush

    Driving a ship into another and walking away without loss of life is minor in comparison

    The captain gets to spend time potentially in a cushy UK prison which be at about same grade of comfort as a good Russian hotel

    While the US loses one of the very few logistics ships (only 10 of these?) they have and would need in case of war with China

    All completely deniable of course



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    It's like that, but worse. Just after Google hears you aren't getting updates, they deliberately roll out a major change in HTML and a new version of Chrome. Within a week, 75% of websites you visit don't display. In another month it will be 90%

    Sure it's the same computer and Office still works and you can do spreadsheets and word processing and stuff, but the internet has essentially broken.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,780 ✭✭✭✭josip


    I don't think there's going to be any Ukrainian war angle to the Russian captain of the container ship. Way too obvious and doesn't make sense at a time when the US were doing Russian's bidding. The only relevant thing him being Russian is that he or the crew are more likely to have been intoxicated to some degree while in charge of a vessel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Poland can always cancel those orders for the Westinghouse/Bechtel nuclear reactors, I'm sure the south Koreans would just love to fill the gap. The order for those 32 F-35s can be binned as well - Macron won't mind.

    The US will go straight past recession to depression if Krasnov keeps this up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Yeah, those US engines have already likely cost SAAB sales to Colombia because the US nixed it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    It was however was US flagged which is a rarity these days

    Only 185 US flagged merchant vessels in 2024 (down from 3000 in 60s) while China has literally thousands, hell Russia has hundreds of tankers alone in its dark fleet now

    Of which only 74 are tankers, and less than dozen specialised for aviation fuel

    A few more “accidents” and US power projection is limited to its shores for a while



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,350 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Or Putin warning Trump that he has the terrorism card to play against the US and world outside of Russia if they give too much to Ukraine in negotiations.

    (Since Trump is fond of cards for negotiation).

    And Putin knows no other powers can play the terrorism card back in locked up Russia.

    Trump being weak and subservient to Putin would relent and accept the message.

    Whatever though it shows outside of Russia, Russians shouldn't be afforded any positions of power or responsibility. This is what happens when one is afforded control of a 140 metre long cargo ship. Rest of the crew were russian and filipino.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    It's still a case of they can just rent another one.

    Were I a marine insurer, I would roll out a quick policy update cancelling insurance on any vessels with Russian captains or first officers. They have gone from dragging anchors across the Baltic to ramming amidships.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,525 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Maybe a warning to the UK, who recently announced increases to defence spending. It creates a lot of environmental damage in UK waters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,350 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    That last paragraph has aged well in the last while. 🤨

    Roman Abramovich (the russian oligarch) has a steel plant in Oregon, USA that has been supplying faulty substandard armour plates for U.S army vehicles. The kremlin pissing themselves laughing at the U.S. And then the U.S through NATO putting pressure to only buy US made substandard military equipment on it's supposed allies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Looks like Trump fired his chief negotiator

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/article301911414.html

    No sign of Putin agreeing to ceasefire

    WhY DoNt ThEY WaNt PeAcE?

    Am I doing the concerned peacenik thing right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,865 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Has Kellogg lost his snap, crackle & pop? Brought out the tiget in Trump? etc…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Probably far less environmental damage than you might think.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,900 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Your post seems to indicate a total lack of understanding of (a) how the US works, (b) how my mind works.

    There is a world of difference between what I may perceive as bad policy, and what is unlawful policy. If Trump wants to abandon Ukraine, focus the Army on the border, insult Denmark and Canada, eviscerate the executive branch and ruin the US economy with a daft trade war, those are policy decisions which are within his remit. The checks and balances as far as that go are the ability of Congress to censure or legislate. Should the elected representatives not do so, that is itself a policy decision by those representatives who are answerable to their constituents. We are getting what we vote for.

    The other checks and balances are those based on legal authorities. Idiotic policy is not illegal. Thus far there has been no evidence that the system is not working. Not least because there is only so much he can effect. Contrary to your post, Trump actually isn't in my chain of command right now, for example. The merits of our dual jurisdiction federal system. Causes all sorts of fun in disaster relief operations (used to be a lot worse).

    So, yes, I am very confident that I will never receive an order to seize Toronto. In the astronomically unlikely order is ever tried (or maybe just a piece of Ontario, maybe to Hamilton) , I have no reason at all to believe that the order will nprogress past Gen. Guillot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    My post is trying to warn you about “dictator for a day” who can undo and has undone (oh and tried even to have a little coup too) checks and balances and effectively becomes an elected king like has happened in Russia

    Now Trump doesn’t have long to live due to his age, but potentially someone much worse could come along and demolish any remaining opposition to authoritarian rule

    Trump could yet be the Yeltsin to future US Putin like figure, probably one of his sons at this rate is next in line

    For Russians invading Ukraine used to be as unthinkable as it is for Americans to currently think about invading Mexico or Canada, if any generals object he just fire them (as he recently done) and put in someone sympathetic to him



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,010 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Your fault lies in thinking that such an order would be illegal. It's within his and Congress's remit to order military operations against anyone. There's nothing inherently illegal about attacking Canada or Greenland or Ireland for that matter. There are no shortage of military personnel who would be happy to march to the beat of that drum.

    There have also been multiple illegal actions taken to date in pursuit of his policies. Illegal firings, withholding authorized payments, arrest and detention of individuals in violation of the Constitution. Laws mean nothing to them



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