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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,033 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Rubio's a stuffed suit, really. Any legitimacy he has with the MAGA base is borne out of his fealty to Trump himself, but this makes him, by definition, unappealing as a leader of MAGA. This is kind of the way Trump likes it. He wants all power to stem from him. To have many play in his court, but only one king. Musk is the only one coming close to usurping the throne, but more through money and underhandedness than genuine charisma.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    I’m sure Thiel has a plan to keep Donny in line but yeah it could easily all blow up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,802 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    “He was, however, diagnosed with an acute case of Biden Derangement Syndrome.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,936 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    They are inline with its trade agreement with the WTO, so they are not the same or even close to what Trump does with his tariffs. They are usually as well under protected industries like dairy and poultry.

    It is poles apart from what Trump is doing, so that is why he doesn’t mention it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    John Bolton's (former national security advisor) theory is that Trump is a 'useful idiot' for the Russians i.e. he's not very bright and is easily manipulated by the craftier Putin.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,374 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Of course America deserves what they get - unfortunately the rest of the world doesn’t but has to suffer it nevertheless



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,026 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Trump stupid Repubicans.jpeg

    Presuming this isn't a spoof.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,254 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Disagree. In the main consumption is still as it was - US and UK influences dominate.

    We may be IN Europe, but we are not European in any cultural sense. We've far more in common with the 2 countries mentioned than anywhere on the continent.

    Post edited by Leg End Reject on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,513 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    If the east China Japan dumped thair government government bonds in the market then the US is fecked imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,203 ✭✭✭amandstu


    https://www.reuters.com/article/world/fact-check-trump-did-not-call-republicans-the-dumbest-group-of-voters-idUSKBN2342DH/

    Not true according to Reuters.

    (they don't say where this originated. Maybe it was said privately but there is not evidence he said it)

    And you know ,if he had said it and it was verified it would still not dissuade his voters. Otoh ,if they come to feel worse off economically they will magically like him less and vote accordingly-if they are allowed to vote)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭thereiver


    Theres a serious outbreak of measles in Texas the only way to stop it is mass vaccinations in schools and hospitals measles is very infectious

    It started in a religious cult who do not believe in vaccinations .

    The problem is a lot of conservatives are anti vaxx Does rfk Jr really have the capability to organize mass vaccinations when the federal government is being torn apart and he's not a big believer in vaccinations . 2 people have died from measles

    Anyone with measles need to get isolated for at least a week .Meanwhile staff from the CDC centre for disease control are being sacked

    Federal agencys that deal with emergencys are losing staff every day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭golfball37


    There is one core reason and with any narcissist it goes back to self. Vlad had my back on the Russia hoax. Joe Biden got rich from Ukraine, Zelenskyy wouldn’t give me Hunter.
    People are giving Don way too much credit here to think of him as some Machavalian character with loyalties to anything but himself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,117 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,893 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    The measles outbreak in Texas is a Texas problem, not a federal problem. RFK has very little to do with it, and it is not a federal problem to fix. Falls under Texas Dept of State Health Services.

    https://www.dshs.texas.gov/news-alerts/measles-outbreak-2025

    Similar with the one in New Mexico, falls under the NM Dept of Health.

    https://www.nmhealth.org/about/erd/ideb/mog/

    The vaccine has federal approval, there are enough doses available in the State, and enough personnel to administer it. Unless the States ask for federal help for whatever reason, there's no reason for the federal government to get involved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,198 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Completely

    Mary Harney said over 20 years ago that we were closer to Boston than Berlin, she was right then and she is right now.

    Post edited by Leg End Reject on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    Measles outbreak are third world stuff.

    Death is obviously the worst consequence but deafness another one.

    Absolute clowns who' don't use a perfectly safe vaccination for their kids. It's ultimately the the responsibility of authorities to drive the vaccination programmes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭kyote00


    It is all linked….the Bible Belt, all the evangelical ‘preachers’ pushing literal interpretations of scripture

    All for personal gain

    MAGA is similar - a cult



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    So has any politician in Texas lost their job over these outbreaks?

    This is stuff one would expect to see in third world “sh1thole countries” to quote a certain president

    What’s next polio and bubonic plague to make America great again again?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    And today Reuters

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/global-markets-investors-analysis-2025-03-05/

    Third week of US stock market declines now



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,676 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Mod: Detritus70 can't come to the forum right now so please don't quote their posts.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,589 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Well when you’re forced to admit that the economy is a disaster why should that stop you from blaming someone who has nothing to do with it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,872 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    So if I've got this right: Trump knows a big secret about Russia and the war, the big secret, that Putin wont tell anyone else and that is why he is cooperating with Putin to pound Ukraine into the ground. Nothing at all about Ukraine persistence of not surrendering, like Trump has, to Putin's Russia.

    Nothing at all about Trump being subservient to Putin and being willing to make the US pursue a political course of action that most US republican presidents would have never thought the party and the country would bear, a truly RED Republican party president in the Oval Office. Those two gents at one of his rallies wearing the "I'd rather be red than a democrat" may have got it right way back then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,872 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    From Andrew Coyne, Toronto Globe and Mail. Feb 24th.

    “Nothing mattered, in the end. Not the probable dementia, the unfathomable ignorance, the emotional incontinence; not, certainly, the shambling, hate-filled campaign, or the ludicrously unworkable anti-policies. The candidate out on bail in four jurisdictions, the convicted fraud artist, the adjudicated rapist and serial sexual predator, the habitual bankrupt, the stooge of Vladimir Putin, the man who tried to overturn the last election and all of his creepy retinue of crooks, ideologues and lunatics: Americans took a long look at all this and said, yes please. There is no sense in understating the depth of the disaster. This is a crisis like no other in our lifetimes. The government of the United States has been delivered into the hands of a gangster, whose sole purpose in running, besides staying out of jail, is to seek revenge on his enemies. The damage Donald Trump and his nihilist cronies can do – to America, but also to its democratic allies, and to the peace and security of the world – is incalculable. We are living in the time of Nero.The first six months will be a time of maximum peril. NATO must from this moment be considered effectively obsolete, without the American security guarantee that has always been its bedrock. We may see new incursions by Russia into Europe – the poor Ukrainians are probably done for, but now it is the Baltics and the Poles who must worry – before the Europeans have time to organize an alternative. China may also accelerate its Taiwanese ambitions. At home, Mr. Trump will be moving swiftly to consolidate his power. Some of this will be institutional – the replacement of tens of thousands of career civil servants with Trumpian loyalists. But some of it will be … atmospheric. At some point someone – a company whose chief executive has displeased him, a media critic who has gotten under his skin – will find themselves the subject of unwanted attention from the Trump administration. It might not be so crude as a police arrest. It might just be a little regulatory matter, a tax audit, something like that. They will seek the protection of the courts, and find it is not there. The judges are also Trump loyalists, perhaps, or too scared to confront him. Or they might issue a ruling, and find it has no effect – that the administration has called the basic bluff of liberal democracy: the idea that, in the crunch, people in power agree to be bound by the law, and by its instruments the courts, the same as everyone else. Then everyone will take their cue. Executives will line up to court him. Media organizations, the large ones anyway, will find reasons to be cheerful. Of course, in reality things will start to fall apart fairly quickly. The huge across-the-board tariffs he imposes will tank the world economy. The massive deficits, fuelled by his ill-judged tax policies – he won’t replace the income tax, as he promised, but will fill it with holes – and monetized, at his direction, by the Federal Reserve, will ignite a new round of inflation. Most of all, the insane project of deporting 12 million undocumented immigrants – finding them, rounding them up and detaining them in hundreds of internment camps around the country, probably for years, before doing so – will consume his administration. But by then it will be too late. We should not count upon the majority of Americans coming to their senses in any event. They were not able to see Mr. Trump for what he was before: why should that change? Would they not, rather, be further coarsened by the experience of seeing their neighbours dragged off by the police, or the military, further steeled to the necessity of doing “tough things” to “restore order?” Some won’t, of course. But they will find in time that the democratic levers they might once have pulled to demand change are no longer attached to anything. There are still elections, but the rules have been altered: there are certain obstacles, certain disadvantages if you are not with the party of power. It will seem easier at first to try to change things from within. Then it will be easier not to change things. All of this will wash over Canada in various ways – some predictable, like the flood of refugees seeking escape from the camps; some less so, like the coarsening of our own politics, the debasement of morals and norms by politicians who have discovered there is no political price to be paid for it. And who will have the backing of their patron in Washington. All my life I have been an admirer of the United States and its people. But I am frightened of it now, and I am even more frightened of them.” Andrew Coyne



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    Wow. Nail on the head. Hard to read it but even harder to disagree with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,872 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


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    Reportedly on a wall in Alberta, Canada.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,032 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    It's a meaningless threat to pretend he's being tough on his buddy in Moscow.

    He's lived his pretending to be this great negotiator and he's showing us all he has in that respect is noise and threats.

    He's the emptiest of all empty vessels. Which is not a new statement for many of us here who saw him for what he is early on and hated him for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,374 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    It’s a great piece of writing - I posted similar sentiment a few pages back around a learned helplessness developing with the electorate where they become too afraid to stray outside of what MAGA is offering them- it seems I’m not the only person who feels this is a real possibility .

    Well done Canadian press- so where the fck are the US press I wonder? It’s not going to take long for all of this to come to pass



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭Iecrawfc


    Reminded of a novel i read years ago, the red president, of a Russian agent in the oval office. Might be time to pull it out again!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,473 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    The White house will soon have a Red Square replacing the lawn.

    USSA under Russian rule not far away.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,026 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Well I did think there was a whiff of spoof about it, hence my proviso, because it would have meant Trump was more intelligent than I would ever give him credit for. I think his IQ is likely around 80 or lower.

    A former US general seems to think likewise:

    President Donald Trump was described as having the intellect of a "fifth- or sixth-grader" by Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis following a meeting about North Korea and the U.S.'s involvement in the region



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