Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD Mod Note Added 02/09/25

Boggles · 06-03-2025 02:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123237226#Comment_123237226

There is no figure for those who make a new claim for asylum or those who cannot be returned . They do exist .

There is asylum figures for new claims, they are published monthly.

You literally linked to them in your previous post.

PokeHerKing · 06-03-2025 03:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123237512#Comment_123237512

We're the Dubai for 3rd world criminals.

Dubai is for 1st world criminals.

rgossip30 · 06-03-2025 03:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123237526#Comment_123237526

I mean those who make a reclaim for asylum after issued with a deportation order .

golondrinas · 06-03-2025 03:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123237226#Comment_123237226

Talk about replacing . 32 Georgians were recently deported at well over 100,000 cost to the taxpayer. Up to that point in the month it was alleged 33 had arrived. ( can’t remember where I read that) .Please don’t ban me for heresay. I’ve already been banned for quoting ms Mac an ti said the AS persons were coming by bus from London. I also claimed in the same post that the AS were being fed 3 times a day. I never even mentioned the fruit , drinks and snacks available during the day.

Geuze · 07-03-2025 12:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123236418#Comment_123236418

Most schools are NGOs, that's 3,000+.

Every sports club is included, that's more thousands.

creeper1 · 07-03-2025 02:23AM

More illustrations of what great assets we are importing.

You know the guys that allegedly will be paying our pensions.

What a joke. Deportations should follow where possible.

https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/devil-mask-man-with-machete-led-gang-raid-on-student-house-court-hears/a311266222.html

Boggles · 07-03-2025 11:28AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123237821#Comment_123237821

What do you mean by "reclaim"?

prunudo · 07-03-2025 11:51AM

Article from Craig Hughes in the mail, seems Helen McEntee is the latest senior minister to jump on the 'far right' bandwagon. Schools under pressure from immigration she says. Well who would have thought, those far away far right were right again.

Thats Jim O'Callaghan, Michael Martin and now Helen McEntee in the last fortnight, wonder how long till Simon Harris gets on message, although he's probably busy putting his foot in it and causing needless diplomatic spats.

Edit, my bad, it was the department who warned her, immigration was putting pressure on schools, not her warning us, immigration was putting pressureon schools.

https://x.com/PaulTreyvaud/status/1897954908826964075

TokTik · 07-03-2025 11:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123240332#Comment_123240332

Shows how two faced and duplicitous politicians are.

Boggles · 07-03-2025 12:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123240332#Comment_123240332

She didn't say anything.

It is a briefing document highlighting changing age demographics and population numbers in both primary and post primary.

It is the literal job of the government department to highlight and plan for these things.

Over the next 5 years our school population is going to decrease.

prunudo · 07-03-2025 12:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123240337#Comment_123240337

They've been complicate in dividing communities and demonising those that spoke out. Everything that people said was and is true, but they were labelled and smeered. Targeted online and doxed by the cheerleading left. Rather than trying to have serious debate and conversations about immigration and the pressures it was causing they chose to raise tensions, treat locals with contempt and rail roaded ipas centre's into communities. Often ripping up the rule book that normal citizens must comply with, and if you dared protest they'd send the heavies on you. Unless you saw with your own eyes, you can't comprehend the contempt government has for you when it comes to concerns about immigration.

Thorny Queen · 07-03-2025 12:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123240332#Comment_123240332

If anyone knows Letterkenny...there is a brand new state of the art Special School currently being completed. The new school is massive.

The school is already refusing children places for September, as it doesn't have the capacity for them and it hasn't even opened!

I feel so so so sad for these local parents and children. One parent being an intellectual disability nurse.

I will say no more because I will get deleted again but as a mother and a teacher, I am disgusted at the carry on in this county in the last 5 years and particularly the last 3 years and who was prioritised for places.

https://www.donegallive.ie/news/letterkenny-milford/1746162/i-can-t-believe-there-are-nine-children-won-t-be-getting-into-little-angels.html

prunudo · 07-03-2025 12:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123240402#Comment_123240402

You're right she didn't warn, her department warned her. I'll edit my original wording.

Its the department of education who are on the far right bandwagon.

TokTik · 07-03-2025 12:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123240447#Comment_123240447

I remember reading about that. Families from as far as Cork trying to get their children into it as there are no places for them down there either. €700m for Ukraine and billions for foreigners is no problem though.

Boggles · 07-03-2025 12:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123240454#Comment_123240454

The department are doing their literal job.

Highlighting changing demographics, in 5 years time our schools are going to be undersubscribed.

Which unfortunately may lead to more schools amalgamating.

What that has to do with the "far right" as you keep trying to shoe it into the conversation is quite baffling.

The only interest those nutters have in education is filming outside schools attacking people in libraries and scaring children.

prunudo · 07-03-2025 12:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123240472#Comment_123240472

It's a thread about immigration, anyone in the past who mentioned immigration was putting pressure on schools or services was deemed 'far right'. Now we have the department of education saying exactly what people were saying for years.

Boggles · 07-03-2025 12:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123240490#Comment_123240490

anyone in the past who mentioned immigration was putting pressure on schools or services was deemed 'far right'

Really?

You will have no problem providing examples so.

Thorny Queen · 07-03-2025 12:38PM

How the fook would this government know what our population is going to be in 5 years time? There is no forward planning or proper projection of population figures.

As an example, my local electorate area's population grew 10,000 people in 5 years. A lot for a low socio economic area.

This country is a free for all but just not for Irish people who will continue to emigrate because it is impossible to live in this country or be in any way patriotic.

Mr. teddywinkles · 07-03-2025 02:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123240332#Comment_123240332

Room must have been dark the first, second, third time she tried to read it.

PokeHerKing · 07-03-2025 02:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123240500#Comment_123240500

It's comments like this that prove to me the extremes are just different sides of the same coin.

There has been zero rational discussion to date on negatives of immigration. RTE/Dail/online. Which is the biggest issue of all.

The middle ground is mute because you can only be seen as racist if you say anything remotely negative.

ArthurDayne · 07-03-2025 02:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123240490#Comment_123240490

Anyone who said that immigration puts pressure on schools or services was deemed far right? Really? Anyone?

A quick Google search using time parameter filters quickly disproves this. Here is an example — a 2006 report from the National Economic and Social Council which refers to the fact that migration can cause pressure on services : nesc.ie/publications/managing-migration-in-ireland/

Did anyone call them far right? Nope.

The endless whining on this forum and across the Internet about all the stuff you can't say lest you be called a racist or far right often just completely ignores the fact that sober, balanced discussions on migration take place all the time without people being labelled as anything in particular.

What people might be inclined to called racist, xenophobic or far right is when people express their feelings on migration by staging protests that sometimes look intended to intimidate and abuse migrants themselves — or constantly seeking out every single bad thing migrants have ever done to tar them all with one brush — or drumming up hatred and suspicion of migrants — or to delve into claims of shadowy conspiracies to replace — or to do nothing but consume or produce nothing but anti-migrant rhetoric 24/7 without ever trying to understand the views and opinions as others.

Boggles · 07-03-2025 02:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123240968#Comment_123240968

What are you talking about rational discussion?

The OP made a false claim and admitted he didn't read the article that he linked to.

Is that the type of rational discussion you are talking about?

batman_oh · 07-03-2025 03:16PM

So 80% are scammers and it's putting pressure on schools and housing - straight from the government themselves. Weirdly it seems that the ones cheerleading on the same ministers when they were calling everybody far right for saying this are still sticking to the cause and fighting the good fight.