Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

It's easy for anyone to deliver a speech/presentation on things an audience wants to hear and it be well received if no one questions the content in anyway or thinks in anyway about what's been said.

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In his head it is the most natural thing in the world. Everyone has a price etc. And it not the first time the USA tried to buy Greenland. Around the year Trump was born was the last attempt America tried to buy Greenland.
https://www.history.com/news/greenland-united-states-seward-cold-war

American found it handy during WW2 and good for national security. It is nearer America than it is to Denmark.

And he had a main message it was simple. The Democrats seem to be more into airy fairy fluffy stuff. What would I would describe as “Oscar speeches” or “Oscar talk”. Nothing concrete that a large chunk of the young/working class can understand/grab onto.

Trump was superb in that address, in delivering his message. The Democrats need to stop the flaky stuff. What is their message?
Either that or lobby to change the American electoral system which is clearly not fit for purpose now.

I certainly wouldn't watch any of his speeches .They are sickening.

I see James Carville's advice to the Dems is to act possum …

It is win win.If the American electorate buy his shiť they will suffer the consequences .

If they recoil then we all benefit.

Sadly I can't say this is good entertainment in the meantime.

That is what poltiics is though Promises/Showmanship hold a major part in it. Espeically in America.

A lot of politics is perception. In any country. Obama had that pose/charisma to draw people in. George W. was great at playing the war leader.

What Trump is great at is forcefully selling a story. Now most of it may not be true, but if there is one Kernel of truth in it, or someone buys into it. That is a vote.

It doesn't matter Trump again sold the story, the electorate will lap it up. It is likely by the time there are real consequences of his actions he will have left office anyway. Even if there is any he will spin it some other way to make it sound like it was not his fault. That is basic politics.

The Democrats all seem to nice they have to start "playing the game" online etc. All reams of facts does not work unless you can sell the message. Make it land. All the hopefully nicey/nicey stuff does not land how can that draw voters in?

He'll be complaining about a trade deficit because of all the minerals and then slap a tariff.... On the same minerals, all while berating who ever agreed to that bad deal. Worst deal in history, he'll say.

Have to laugh at the UK, saying the only way to avoid tariffs is to enter a free trade agreement with the US. Someone needs to remind them both Canada and Mexico have a FTA with the US.

Those minerals are important to the whole world. China have been scouring the planet for those minerals for years. Ukraine have loads including the 17 rare earth minerals. Loads of Graphite and Lithium for EV batteries. Titanium, Uranium, Copper etc. The Russian controlled areas of Ukraine also have lots of minerals which they won't want to give up.

FT reporting US has stopped intelligence sharing with Ukraine

The US has stopped sharing "all" intelligence with Ukraine, a Ukrainian source has said. 

Previously the source, with knowledge of the situation, said the halt in the flow of intelligence had been "selective", only affecting information that could be used for attacks inside Russia. 

"A few hours ago, the exchange of all information was stopped," the source said. 

The move is another blow for Kyiv after Donald Trump decided to pause all military aid to Ukraine following a bust-up with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in the White House. 

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/ireland-will-raise-both-ukraine-and-gaza-with-donald-trump-during-white-house-meeting-taoiseach-tells-dail/a1087704798.html

I have many questions about why he needs to pledge anything to anyone before the meeting.. and moreso why he needs to spell it out.

But more importantly, why are our media still calling it the 'St. Patrick's Day' meeting when it's happening on the 12th? We get annoyed by the US calling it Patty's Day

First president to deliberately create a deep recession

That’s an achievement, first time around he tried with Covid now it seems exponentially worse

Making a rod for his own back Martin and more importantly Ireland's with that approach.

He should go in and just say what a great golf course Doonbeg is, one of the best in the world blah blah and he thinks Trump is doing a great job. Invite him over for a game, tell him they are going to name something after him.

How there are 35m people of Irish heritage in the US and the bond between both countries is very strong.

Ireland is the 51st state.

Dont poke the bear by bringing up Ukraine or Gaza, Ireland is supposed to be a neutral country and whilst posturing like this is honourable its neither the time or the place for it.

Thats not true, you made a completely false statement that I never ever criticised Trump.

You keep shifting position, coming out with sweeping statements, for example a few weeks ago you were claiming that the US was realistically going to try and invade Canada, now you are essentially saying Trudeau and Canada will give Trump a bloody nose.

Which is it ??

First thing i agree with you on.