Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

Trump on Greenland:

“One way or another, we’re going to get it”

Mining in Greenland is not easy and comes with massive risks to the environment - I reckon if US took over Greenland they’d evacuate the islanders to US mainland and just make a toxic swamp of the place
https://www.ft.com/content/6039c95e-889e-4f35-907a-2f217fafb8ea

They gutted critical FAA support staff that are part of that role. And that's only one example of Elon's f*ckwittery damaging Federal functionality for the sake of looking like he's doing something useful. Shall we even get into the Nuke support staff "accidentially" getting fired and prompty re-hired in a panic? There's no ryme nor reason to what the DOGE techbros are going, because there is none.

Federal staff? You get fired.

Why? 'Cause Elon wants to look like he saved the Government money, and doesn't really care how.

His approach to all of this is about as well thought-out as his design of the W*nk Panzer (aka CyberTruck)

I was listening to a Pod on Musk and the lady (cant remember her name) speaking on him said the main reason he is on DOGE (in her opinion) is to get access to all the information possible on US citizens.

This will be fed into his databases and would give him a massive advantage in the AI market as he would have so much more data than anyone else.

If Biden had stuck to his original plan of being a one-term President, they could have had a full Democratic Primary, and whoever won that would have had enough time to say "Here's what Biden is doing with regards the economy, but here's what I'm going to do"

Instead, Biden stuck in too long, the Democratic Party as a whole suffered because they supported him even though the effects of his age were becoming more obvious and undeniable (I don't buy that they in any way hid or ignored any issues he had as he wasn't actually cognitively impaired, he was just older and stumbled his words more/lost his train of thought), they had to go with Harris as the nominee, and Harris was so intrinisically tied to Biden's plans that she couldn't separate from them. Given the effect that inflation and the cost of living had on people, that became an anchor around her neck.

Either that or trans women in womens sports. You know, the less than 1% of the population, probably less than 1% of whom even want to play womens sports, and the fact that the average American doesn't really care about or support womens sports anyway. Actually yeah, that's probably what the issue was.

Agreed. The reason the Dems lost the election is partially down to this, as can be seen from the reaction to Trumps EO, trans stuff is widely unpopular.

It seems Dems strategists cannot understand that while this is a relatively minor issue, it is one that elicits a strong emotional response from people. They don't seem to understand that upending a really really long standing human convention might not be all that popular.

It's a bizarre hill to die on, but not unsurprising. It's a direct result of the purity virus that infects the left.

Colbert's piece on the paddles.

Youve seen nothing from me criticising Trump at all, ever ?

Well thats just blatantly and utterly false.

I said multiple times before he was even confirmed to run for a second term that he shouldnt as he was unhinged and too old.

I repeated that during his campaign, it was the Democrats determination to weaponise the DOJ and courts in a bid to keep him off the ballot and concealing Bidens physical decline that reinvigorated Trumps campaign.

The abuse of the courts and the assassination attempts has emboldened Trump even further.

He is more arrogant, more obnoxious than ever and engaging in petty and juvenile behaviour. I dont like that behaviour.

I knew another Trump term would lead to the daily circus we are now seeeing, a cacophony of noise and outrage, it would be much more enjoyable to not turn on the news every night and see Trump as the top story, its exhausting.

But Outrage sells as I previously said, he is barely in office 6 weeks and he has 4 more years to go.

Vance is not a good foil for Trump, a more calming influence would be preferential and there is a danger that he has surrounded himself with yes men with no one to rein in his ego.

Deals will be done in time, the storm will die down like it did in his first term, there is too much outrage and fearmongering now.

You've downplayed the terrible stuff he's done as a long term play. This includes the ethnic cleansing remark and his pretty apparent favouring of Putin. Generally you just seem to be attempting to gaslight posters into the view that they're overreacting to the terrible **** he's doing.

The lack of a co-ordinated response from the Democrats show exactly how much trouble they're in (and arguably why they lost the election).

You had a mishmash of those refusing to attend (AOC live-tweeting the event instead), those holding town halls in their own consituencies, those sitting meekly in the chamber with their silly little paddles etc.

Their response should have been robust and united one: whether attending dressed in the Ukrainian colours (Yellow jackets over blue trousers/skirts), standing and turning their backs as soon as he started to speak and holding that position until the end of his speech, standing in silent ranked lines on the steps, leading a massive and nosiy protest outside etc. But whichever it was, they should have gotten every Democrat represntative on side for it.

light relief but very metaphorical 🤩 CBC

Just goes to show, don't mess with the cobra chicken…

When will they have a mature debate about why some American products are not freely traded in Canada or the EU? Like they don't want us dairy or meat because it is inferior from a human health standpoint, not because they are trying to "Screw America" FDA standards are not good enough, that's the problem.

“and their plan looks to be nothing more than ride out his presidency and hope the country is so trashed that they’ll win by default in 28.”

Were early days but certainly that’s my take on it too

Of course, it was well received. Why wouldn't it be? It's full of lies and USA being No 1, and America first and all that stuff. If you are an American, what is not to like?

It is why Trump has been so successful despite being really poor at being a leader. He has the ability to lie, lie repeatedly, and at no point does anyone stop to simply ignore everything the liar is saying.

He never says how he will do anything, except that it will be easy and the best ever. He never alludes to the myriad of failures in the past, the myriad of broken promises.

He say what people want to hear. So it isn't at all surprising that it is well received.