Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

Their army is dilapidated, losing too many men, need North Korean soldiers and are fighting with shovels, and can’t get out of Eastern Ukraine

Where have I ever said anything like this?

also a threat to the whole of Europe. No one is buying it anymore. Nonsense propaganda that if we don’t enrich the arms companies something terrible will happen.

How do you know what Putin's long-term intentions are? Have you a direct line to his mind?

Trumps announcement - if true re cutting off 100% arms supply the Ukr and the affect its going to have on the US military contractors it will be chicken feed compared the impact Musk’s examination on the Defence department - a classical example of a ‘double whammy’

Yes the road to war is littered with “your overreacting” . The absolute vileness and inhumanity of 1944/45 was unthinkable in 1934/35.

You cannot be serious? Trust the process? When Trump is the least trustworthy person on the planet?

A Russian invasion of Poland or of the Baltic States would cause a public outcry worldwide, including in the US. There is no evidence that Trump intends to withdraw US military personnel or nuclear weapons from Europe.

What exactly is the deal Ukraine will be signing? What are the terms?

What difference would it make, I doubt Zelensky gives a toss about the minerals one way or another. Only move in his circumstances is to give Trump whatever he wants and hope for the best

But the disagreement in the Oval Office was not about the mineral rights deal (Zelensky wanted to sign it that day). There is no actual peace deal on offer from Trump or Putin or anyone else at the moment - negotiations on a ceasefire and peace deal haven't even started yet.

I haven't seen any process to speak of, Trump seems to be worshipping Putin and Russia gets off scott free. So nope, Trump is not to be trusted and him holding lives to ransom as he is, is abhorrent.

Not exactly. Putin and Trump talked multiple times. Their representatives were talking for the last several months at least. As many others said, Trump doesn't care about Ukraine. He likes Putin, he knows that Putin won't stop the war unless he gets what he demands from Ukraine, so the simple, demented Trump pushes Zelenskyy to agree to the "deal".

Some people naively think that the "deal" is the publicised mineral deal. It is not, the real deal is the "diplomatic solution" alluded by Vance. Zelenskyy had to agree to capitulate to Russia during the recent meeting in Washington. Then Trump would bring the deal to his master Putin who would gracefully help his friend Donnie to achieve "peace" by agreeing to take over Ukraine. Win-Win for Putin and Trump. If only the pesky little Zelenskyy didn't argue and did what he was told.

Only American move that matters to Zelensky now is whether they continue to provide military support, whether to fight an ongoing war or for a security guarantee as part of a peace deal. So to maximise the chances of securing that, Zelensky needs to grovel to Trump, tell him whatever he wants to hear etc.

The working assumption going forward from Europe will have to be that the US is a permanently hostile state and that we have entered a new Cold War. It's hard to see how the Democrats can regain power, given how crazy the current US setup is and how the American public (the MAGA half anyway) appear to have totally lost the plot.

I think Zelenskyy will need to resign before the Americans engage again.

More news on this proposed month long ceasefire. Is this a runner? As a tester? Out of little acorns oaktrees grow .. perhaps? No need for USA/TRUMP then in this one:

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky appears to confirm his agreement to a Partial-Ceasefire which was being discussed between the U.K. and France during the recent Summit in London, stating, “the first stages could be the release of prisoners and truce in the sky — ban on missiles, long-ranged drones, bombs on energy and other civilian infrastructure — and truce in the sea immediately, if Russia will do the same.”

New from Zelensky - reiterating Ukraine’s commitment to peace.

"None of us wants an endless war. Ukraine is ready to come to the negotiating table as soon as possible to bring lasting peace closer. Nobody wants peace more than Ukrainians. My team and I stand ready to work under President Trump’s strong leadership to get a peace that lasts.

We are ready to work fast to end the war, and the first stages could be the release of prisoners and truce in the sky — ban on missiles, long-ranged drones, bombs on energy and other civilian infrastructure — and truce in the sea immediately, if Russia will do the same. Then we want to move very fast through all next stages and to work with the US to agree a strong final deal.

We do really value how much America has done to help Ukraine maintain its sovereignty and independence. And we remember the moment when things changed when President Trump provided Ukraine with Javelins. We are grateful for this.

Our meeting in Washington, at the White House on Friday, did not go the way it was supposed to be. It is regrettable that it happened this way. It is time to make things right. We would like future cooperation and communication to be constructive.

Regarding the agreement on minerals and security, Ukraine is ready to sign it in any time and in any convenient format. We see this agreement as a step toward greater security and solid security guarantees, and I truly hope it will work effectively."