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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,057 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "Trump will never manage to give military aid to Russia"

    Trump will never get elected after the "grab her by the pussy" tape.

    Trump will never get elected after the Stormy Daniels hush payment.

    Trump will never survive the first impeachment.

    Trump will never survive the second impeachment.

    Trump will never get re-elected after fighting the peaceful handover of power.

    Trump will never get re-elected after the dumpster fire of a campaign in 2024.

    Trump will never get re-elected after his criminal convictions.

    Trump will never enact project 2025.

    Etc etc etc

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    So what does Russia have to do?


    Where’s the demands from Trump to Putin for peace?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,240 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Wake up. Trump is a baddie. Supporting Trump is supporting Putin, and I for one, don't want to have to go and learn how to speak Russian

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Ah yes, the strategy of giving an advantage to the genocidal invader.... You'll justify absolutely everything apparently, it's not 4d chess. Trump is just a piece of ****....

    Also those Canada tariffs that you said were some 4d chess have kicked off. We're now 2 months in and it's been pretty disastrous but you'll try to sell it still I guess.

    Post edited by eightieschewbaccy on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭innuendo141


    You are basically pushing for a repeat of the Munich Agreement - even with the benefit of hindsight.

    I'm glad this opinion is only the minority in Ireland so I'm taking some comfort in that at least. Given our own history, I can't fathom taking this stance.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,547 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    If there ever was an example of the failure of the US education system, this is it.

    Post edited by twinytwo on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    6 million new homes required in the US- it’s going to bump up prices as cost of raw materials will rise from the tariff on Canada which supplies a lot of the timber - considering a home purchase is the single biggest purchase of most people lifetime, it’s going to impact a lot of people for decades - tariffs on agricultural goods also -farmers don’t have the time to change horses mid stream so again food will rise overall.

    I’m trying to find the logic here- is he forcing American producers to produce what he wants them to produce, thus closing down or greatly reducing the need for foreign goods in those areas?

    If so, the pivot will take time and as for trees and timber, decades - he will be long rotting in the ground.

    As for the economy, aside for the fact it will take a few years to see a positive impact in the Agri sector, you have the immigrant farm workers completely scared off working on farms for fear of deportation - so who will harvest because Americans certainly won’t unless he introduces chain gangs which I wouldn’t put past him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,593 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Doug Ford, Ontario Premier said they'll cut electricity exports as a result of the tariffs.

    Ontario Premier Doug Ford said Monday he is prepared to cut off electricity exports to the U.S. if President Trump’s 25 percent tariffs on Canadian goods go through.

    “If they want to try to annihilate Ontario, I will do everything — including cut off their energy with a smile on my face,” Ford told reporters

    https://thehill.com/policy/international/5173914-ontario-premier-doug-ford-tariff-threat/



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,689 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    No, Trump wants to surrender to Putin. That's all this is and it's a massive slap in the face to generations of Americans who fought for freedom and paid for the US Army.

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    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,613 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    You're asking those questions as if Trump has given the answers (or probably even the questions) any consideration in his decisions.

    No matter what he does, he won't be the one affected by it, so all he's doing is gambling. Gambling that all countries will flock to the US and make all their products in the US rather than having to deal with ever-increasing tariffs, even though the US doesn't have the labour force, materials or capabilities to do so.

    But Trump won't feel the pain of it, and he probably won't even run again in 2028, so he doesn't care because he'll never be the one who has to pick up the pieces if (when) it all fails. He might get one or two good trade deals and a few companies returning or moving to the US, and will tout it all as a huge success, a success like nobody has ever seen before, while most of the rest of the country is in a shambles behind him. But of course, that won't have been his fault.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,140 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    ^ Exactly: it's all a game to Trump. No, really, it's like something out of Sid Meier's Civilization series of games. International relations boiled down to a zero sum game, taking different postures to score different kinds of points, all from a god's eye view wher battles are just about numbers.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    "Instead, they just momentarily freeze like an overworked computer, reset their world view to align with Trump's new stance"

    This is becoming increasingly obvious. Total radio silence for at least 24hrs after he fuks up and then everyone piles in together with an identical narrative.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,476 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    In the interests of saving time and being more efficient overall.

    Could Putin just announce in future what he is making Trump do.

    Cut out the clown show.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,665 ✭✭✭kyote00


    I think putin already does. It’s project 2025



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,879 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Have you and the others who believe that Zelenskyy should throw in the towel to Trump/Putin ever considered the possibility that, in the long hours Trump's told the world he's been on the phone to Putin, that he has cut a deal with Putin splitting up Ukraine between them for its reported mineral and rich earth resources and that is why he wants Zelenskyy out of the picture? Trump has made it clear that there will be no US boots on the ground in Ukraine. I believe him, with the rider that Trump includes the US NOT being part of the mineral resources workforce. He's angered that Ukraine is delaying his plans by resisting Putin's war. Trumps B/S claim that Zelenskyy has only 04% of the popular vote is just rubbish and more of Putin's disinformation. Trump, with his behaviour, has provided Zelenskyy with a shot in the arm from Ukrainians pissed-off with Trump likely to vote in Ukraine's presidential elections.

    We haven't heard diddly squat from Trump as to what he and Putin allegedly said to each other in the long phone-calls he claims to have had with Putin. All Trump has spoken about is how Zelenskyy is the person keeping the war going. That figures if you include any deal he has made with Putin to divvy up Ukraine between them. It's worth going back now to what Trump said since the Oval Office row about Zelenskyy not being around much longer.

    Ref your "he's in no position to dictate terms" maybe you should reverse that to refer to Trump, not Zelenskyy. He's the elected head of the Ukraine republic, not Trump. Your deliberate ignoring of whom is the aggrieved party and whom is the aggressor in the war opened by Putin on Ukraine since 2014 shows your argument does not have a stitch of relevance when it comes to the war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    It’s quite simple really. All these people who have cheered on Trump from day one don’t want to admit they were wrong about him so they just double down and make excuses for everything he does

    It's fucking pathetic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    It's pretty noticeable that his biggest supporters tend to just post and dash or not post at all. They got excited about the attacks on transgender people but don't say a word about the Andrew Tate intervention etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,476 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    So it is now de facto Europe-Rest of the Normal thinking World-Ukraine versus Trumps Cabinet-Russia.

    But but but for God sake under no circumstances should Trump be taken literally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    He can't run again!

    Can we stop this nonsense of Trump getting a 3rd term. It won't happen. It can't happen. It's ludicrous to even discuss it. Even the Republicans aren't that stupid.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭Field east


    when is Musk going to go into the defence department to ‘CLEAN IT UP’ it has a reputation of being quiet corrupt



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,034 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    What version of events did you watch last week, because for all the clips I've seen from the oval office, I didn't see this edition.

    Zelensky refused to play the "lets ignore reality" that was being pushed on him. He is doing an incredible leading his country and representing the best interests of the citizens both now, and in to the future.

    And with respect to the "giving thanks" that the snowflakes were asking for. He has said thanks publicly nearly 90 times in the last 3 years, why were they so demanding of it last Friday? And Vance brought up Zelensky going to PA before the election last October like that was something he needed to apologize for. Do all the MAGA'ts forget that Trump and Vance made stopping support for Ukraine a central part of their election campaign, was he supposed to join them at rallys pushing that message?

    Trump is doing nothing more than trying to bully Zelensky in to losing territory, giving up resources, abandoning security and stepping down so a Putin puppet can be installed and you and the American Right Wing want him to jump at that opportunity and thank Trump effusively while doing so? America has taken giant steps backwards which ultimately and eventually impact its own self interests. Trump and Vance and Johnson and the rest of them debasing themselves pushing this strategy will be held accountable in time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,755 ✭✭✭✭josip


    He's more likely to win an Ig Nobel Prize than a Nobel one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,613 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Sorry, you're right. I wasn't even thinking of that. I think I had it in my head him being asked if he'd run again in 2028, but pretty sure that was in context of if he lost in 2024 would he run again in 2028.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    No probs. To be fair, some people believe he is going to change the constitution somehow and be a Forever President. Or military dictatorship or whatever nonsense. There should be a separate thread for the conspiracy stuff.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,315 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    An event at which Roger Cook was the guest speaker, a journalist asked the premier to finish the sentence: “JD Vance is a …”

    Cook replied: “Knob.” then said: “You’ve got to have one unprofessional moment, don’t you? That was it.”

    His description won him laughs and a round of applause from the audience.

    “When I made the comments there was a lot of applause around the room so perhaps some people enjoyed the fun that came with it. Other people might have been offended and I apologise.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/mar/04/wa-premier-roger-cook-calls-us-vice-president-jd-vance-a-knob

    😃😄😍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,590 ✭✭✭McFly85


    It’s really unlikely definitely but we’re 6 weeks in and he’s spent his time constantly testing the protections of American democracy. There’s a ton of things that he’s not supposed to be able to do that he’s doing anyway, the latest of which is unilaterally cutting aid to Ukraine. Theres already MAGA types asking about the legality of a third term, suggesting he should be allowed as it’s interpreted as 2 consecutive terms.

    As I said, it’s really, really unlikely. But cannot happen doesn’t exist in Trumps America.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,877 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Trump is more powerful than Putin. I don't buy the Russian agent. Trumps ego wouldn't allow it given he's technically the bigger fish.

    I think it's more a case of Trump having wild world views and being pretty dogmatic about them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Fair enough but I don’t see the payoff with the American public- there’s going to be a lot of pain - a lot of cost- jobs lost- increased prices- markets will react negatively - uncertainty will drive stagnation - no one will want to invest because they won’t know what hair brained scheme Trump will do next - I get the “chaos” right now- but there has to come, a time of stability - but that means trust in Trump - absolutely no one will trust Trump so companies, organisations even farmers won’t want to take risks in such a volatile market - whilst change is good for companies, this is chaos and that’s bad- trust is eroded and we’re not 2 months into this sh1tshow.
    Trump can change what he wants but the markets will respond in their own way- he doesn’t have control over that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,817 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    As I've said before the relative amendment (the 22nd) states that "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice". It doesn't appear to prevent him actually running, only prevents him winning. If his name is on the ballot and he wins by a landslide due to his overwhelmingly successful second term, will the courts really over-rule the clear democratic wishes of the American people?

    Also (repeating myself now from 2 weeks ago so apologies) it seems to me that a win/run in 2028 would be for 're-election' as opposed to for 'election', so it wouldn't necessarily breach the 22nd. I don't believe this theoretical and perhaps fanciful interpretation has been tested in the Supreme Court.

    I don't think the above is likely at the moment, but hellfire, so much has happened in the first 6 weeks that seemed unlikely that it is surely ludicrous to rule out anything over the next 36 months?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭golfball37


    The fact we seem so obsessed about the internal political machinations of a country 3000 miles away probably proves the dependency argument to some extent. It’s about time Europe stood on its own two feet.
    America has voted for this isolationist approach, let them off.



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