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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,802 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Jesus wept, that is some take. You’re nearly drowning in the kool aid, no reasoning with someone so bought into a cult.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    As I said, hysterical. There will be another election in 4 years and his VP Vance will not win it.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Why so confident there will be (fair) elections in 4 (or even 2 years)?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    Feel sorry for his kids having a father with such crazy ideology.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,727 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I feel sorry for his kids having to watch him deep-throat Peter Thiel every Saturday night.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,339 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    From what I can see, Trump doesn't like any European country bar Russia. It's all transactional to him at this point, how much money he can make from a relationship with any of them. The US has effectively become a standoffish belligerent on his watch, with virtually no friends or allies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Russia's economy is at a lower base because, as Spence said, it has been a 'second-world country' since the dissolution of the Soviet Union. In other words, Russia hasn't had capitalism for as long as Western Europe has. Furthermore, Russia had a genuine democratic system for only a decade before Putin became president - those Russians who are old enough to remember the Soviet era were more used to so-called Soviet democracy than genuine democracy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭Westernview


    He's not a good businessman. He has ran most of the businesses that he has been in charge of into the ground.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,211 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Don Junior is roasting Zelensky big time on X, doubt he will be getting any more weapons from the Yanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,417 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    There's a massive difference in the outcome between the detonation of one 15 Kt Atomic bomb made in the 1940s and the detonations of hundreds or even thousands of more modern hydrogen bombs with a potential yield in the hundreds to thousands of Kts, each.

    You're not comparing like for like in the slightest. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are antiquated comparisons.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Yeah look at the post I replied to. He was obviously referencing the 1945 event and bombs.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,058 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "He isn't creating some kind of militia to bust up demonstrations as you put it."

    Screenshot_20250302-154052.png

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭techdiver


    Without dragging the thread off course there is no one simple answer to the fallout question. Air burst vs surface burst makes a big difference. Cities would be attached with air bursts for the most part as air bursts cover a wider area but also are "cleaner". Hiroshima and Nagasaki were both air bursts. Surface or ground burst would be used against bunkered or military targets.

    Strictly speaking hydrogen bombs are "cleaner" as it uses less radioactive material in the process. It's fusion vs fission for the most part. The fission aspect is used as a trigger for the fusion reaction.

    But in essence a large scale nuclear war had no winners in the end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭amandstu


    I thought so too.

    You haven't aanswered me as to why you seem confident there will be fair elections in 4 yrs time

    I am always happy to be reassured on those sorts of counts.

    Is it just your gut/wishful thinking or do you have concrete reasons that guide your thinking on this point?

    I can point to his clear election interference and refusal to accept the result to bolster my pessimism(as well as the abject servility of those who never held him to account)



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,689 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It never had a genuine democratic system. It's was always a deeply corrupt oligarchy after the Cold War ended.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭amandstu


    My feeling too.How could anyone expect genuine democracy in a small 10 year period after the collapse of Communism?

    It was always the hope that democracy would take hold with time.

    At the time I blamed the laisser fare approach from the West for the failure of the project

    We should have been more generous to those we had bested.(not at the expense of the subjects in its empire of course)

    Was it Thatcher who had influence in our approach?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    There will be an election in 4 years because there is an election every 4 years. It will not change.

    I am new to this thread but I don't have the energy to start countering conspiracy theories. If you want to worry about violence towards opposition and new Jan 6 militias and Trump forever dictatorships, go right ahead. I think you like to worry.

    The world will keep spinning.

    The bluffer will get bored and go golfing soon.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭Caustic


    They are pulling everything I imagine, read something about them not repairing electrical infrastructure now and Europe having to step or will have to step in to replace starlink



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,058 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    We can all ponder at our leisure why Trump is parroting Russian talking points, trying to extort Ukraine (for a *second* time) and sabotage Europe.

    Maybe it's kompromat.

    Maybe it's purely money driven.

    Either way, we have finally reached the point where there can be no debate... that is exactly what he is doing.

    Eventually, people are finally waking up to it.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,019 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Well given that one of his son's said they had to get money from Russian banks because they were no US banks that would lend to them. So I’d say it's money related.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭techdiver


    There's only two explanations for Trumps attitude towards Ukraine.

    1. He is doing his usual man child reaction to Zelensky not doing his bidding years ago and due to his hurt ego he's willing to let Russia murder and subjugate a entire nation as punishment.
    2. He is deeply compromised by the Kremlin.

    Either way he's an evil, duplicitous danger to the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    He's compromised or his family is.

    He has been in Putins pocket for years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,641 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Have a look at this video which contains John Mearsheimer outlining in 2015 what he thinks will happen to Ukraine and tell me that Ukraine and the West werent partly responsible for the invasion.

    What Mearsheimer predicts was spot on and came to pass, Ukraine adopting a hardline policy with Russia wrecked Ukraine.

    His analysis on the currrent state of the war is also excellent.

    I know you will just dismiss this as Russian propaganda but other people can make up their minds as everthing Mearsheimer said came to pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,339 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Why were Kremlin officials desperately trying to talk Putin out of invading Ukraine the night before it happened? They were telling him it would be a disastrous mistake but he was having none of it.

    None of this tallies with the line the Putin / MAGA bots are giving us now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,882 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I speculated that Trump would pull the US out of NATO and the UN after he pulled the US out of WHO. Musk, on X, has endorsed the idea promoted by a Trump supporter, Gunther Eagleman and two [R] politicians, Sen Mike Lee (Utah) & C/man Chip Roy (Texas) that Trump do so.

    It's probably a distraction balloon released to turn peoples attention away from Trump's Oval Office antics; what'll we do now - how about create another shitstorm to cover up this one?

    I cant see it happening as it would strip the US of its veto power as one of the 5 Permanent members of the UN Security Council, which other US pols would NOT like to lose. Imagine the US president not being able to veto what the UK, France or China proposed the UN approve of?

    However, Trump likes ideas without running them through first for repercussions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,608 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    And Mearsheimer's analysis is largely rejected by most analysts. The fact that you and others seem to have only this one individual to fall back on to justify the invasion says a lot. You put the blame on Ukraine for wanting eventual NATO membership and the reason for it is that Russia acted as a constant threat. They even tried to destroy trade agreements with the EU via Yanukovych. Russia never had a right to prevent Ukraine from a growing relationship with the West.

    Simple one, a lot of this hinges on a weird plot by the previous administration. Yet not a single bit of proof has ever been produced by Trump. So yep, you absolutely are engaging in propaganda. FYI, posters on the invasion thread have been Mearsheimer for years and they've been using it to excuse genocide at every turn. Russia never had the right to invade Ukraine, Ukraine did not provoke an invasion and Russia absolutely have expansionist goals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,118 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Trump's been looking for an excuse to get out of NATO since the second half of his first term. His targets for spending of other NATO allies are deliberately high to try give him the pretext. First he wanted 2.5% spending, now he wants 4 or 5%.

    It's all a ruse in my opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,339 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I saw an analyst saying he hates organisations of any description : the EU, the UN, NATO, the WTO, the WHO etc etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,246 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Nothing's a ruse. They have spelled out exactly what they intend to do before Trump was even elected. They provided a book full of spoilers for it called Project 2025



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,388 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    He hates rules and laws that stop him from doing what he wants - he’s a dictator in his own twisted mind.



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