Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

Any Irish person still dick sucking Trump is a traitor at this point. **** him and anyone that sees good in him

Disgusting, to see that fcuking coward, sit there and bully and extort a brave man who has given his all, to defend his country. Trump would have ran like the diarrhea that he is on the very first day were the shoe on the other foot. The sooner airforce one pancakes into the earth taking Trump and his cabal of scum with him the better.

Not just her, the entire press corps were listening in shocked silence.

Vance is just Trumps little puppet.

i didnt think that Trump could shock me anymore but OMG but I am shocked and shook .
Two bullies shouting at a victim that they were the cause of their attack

Shocking stuff even from him

It’s why the UK and France took the approach they did - have the arguments behind closed doors certainly - but this was a trap and Zelensky fell for it - Ireland will most certainly be ripe for a roasting -

There's no jolt.

For every rational, normal American - this is another example of the obscene circus leading the country

For everyone else it's Trump "talking tough" to an ungrateful leader who kept taking American's money and "doesn't want peace" and all the other propaganda MAGA has been successfully pumping out for years.

I’m devastated listening to this. I can hardly believe what I’m hearing from Trump and Vance.
The more I see and hear Zelenskyy the more I admire him. Brave, principled, a patriot of the highest order.

I knew it the minute the Trump got reelected, it was the end of the USA era. It's over.

They knew what he was like and reelecting him was doubling down on giving two fingers to the world.

Pathetic from Trump, a guy who weaseled out of military service, talking down to a man trying to save his country. Reminds me of Hitler savaging the Czechs in the run-up to WW Two, although that was behind closed doors.

Trump is in the pocket of Putin and always has been. The US of old is gone. This is what the Irish delegation will be treated to, which makes you wonder why they will bother going.

Trump and Vance just committing a diplomatic war crime in full view of the worlds media.

Two cowardly bullies. Truly shocking and sad to see them blaming and shaming Ukraine and it's president.

And now he's kicking zelensky out the white house, literally.

Same here.

The problem is: Does one want or have to want to rely on a "partner" like Trump and Vance if they behave this way. Suppose they agree on some kind of "awesome deal", would it really be worth it when push came to shove?

I would doubt both.

There are also a couple of facts:

Even if the US would get all the rights to minerals and rare earth in Ukraine, it'll take them several years to get access to them. It's in the ground, infrastructure would have to be built up, investment would have to be made. And by the time things came to fruition Trump would either be dead or no longer president.

US investment in mining would then be in the Ukraine. Who would protect that? A European NATO force with boots on the ground? And what if the Russians came again? It would then have to be some kind of air cover from the US, possibly operating out of Rumania?

All nearly impossible if there is a war still going on, and no real end in sight.

From the point of Zelenskyy I would bluntly state to the both of them, either you help us militarily by whatever means, guns, ammunition, etc… then you get access to our raw materials, if not, you don't and we as Ukrainians would have to fend for ourselves, maybe with the help of the Brits or the French. It's as simple as that.

It's a wake up call for Europe . The US now sees itself as a strong adversary of the continent and no 'friend'.

Zelenskyy humiliated by trump and Vance in public, what must the people of Ukraine be thinking, having lost so many people trying to defend themselves for the past three years, and now trump wants to asset strip their natural resources. That was disturbing yv.