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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,762 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Depending on how bad it gets, a future Democrat adminstration might get the ability to go after bullshit like Citizens United.

    If time travel was a thing, going back and preventing that ruling and the earlier removal of the fairness doctrine by Reagan would likely have prevented the rise of the Tea party and later MAGA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭poop emoji


    Fed revised GDP estimate from 2.3% for 1st quarter so far only last week to -1.5%

    Incredible job Trump!

    Books are gonna be written about how one of the best US economies thanks to Biden was fucked up overnight by Trump



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,977 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    This is some interview between Trump, Zelensky and Vance. It did make for good TV viewing as Trump said, but that was not good diplomacy from Trump and Vance. They were disrespectful to Zelensky. Macron and Starmer kissed Trump's behind. Zelensky is right not to do the same.

    Post edited by sligeach on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,777 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Its a disgrace. Trump and Vance ganging up in poor Zelenski. Poor man. So sad to see what has come of America with these Clowns in Charge.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,977 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Trump & Vance acting the see u next tuesday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Qaanaaq


    It's very hard to watch. I had to switch it off. It's so disappointing to hear the US talking like that. Disgusting stuff really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 857 ✭✭✭wingnut32


    Shocking…absolutely shocking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    Was this ever going to play out any other way?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭innuendo141


    I can't listen to him speak for more than a minute. He speaks like he never went to secondary school.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,295 ✭✭✭jojofizzio


    you can tell from the body language here that Zelenskyy wants nothing more than to tell the Donald and his crew to get f*****d…..how he’s holding it together being spoken to like that is hard to imagine



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,887 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It's been perfectly obvious from the words of Trump over the past few days that his plan was to upset Zelenskyy and cause him to throw in the towel. Todays meeting has confirmed that for me in spades. Trump is clearly intent on trying to make Zelenskyy stand up and walk out on the meeting so he can continue to lie to his fellow US citizens about how disrespectful Zelenskyy is to the US. Vance got in on the Trump act.

    The good thing is that their behaviour has been recorded for posterity and non-deniability by the media, which were there with Trumps permission.

    The thing is that no one has asked Trump or Vance if they would follow their own advice and do a deal if the US had been invaded in the way Ukraine has been invaded, without the invader being obliged to withdraw all of its invading forces as part of the deal [as fostered by Trump, and now Vance].



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,737 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    "I’ve empowered you to be a tough guy, and I don’t think you’d be a tough guy without the United States"

    What a pathetic insecure, emasculated little man. The guy clearly has some psychosexual, daddy issue hanging ups about "strong men".

    It's a bit like the clearly homoerotic attempts from "homophobic" Putin to look masculine back in his early days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭Private Joker


    I know i shouldnt be shocked, but that was shocking. What type of an era are we heading into? its unprecendented.

    Trump and Vance acted like school bullies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,120 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I'd say the last place any leader wants to be at the moment is sitting on that chair next to Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    It’s like telling the rape victim it’s their fault.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I missed most of this meeting with Trump and Zelensky, so will have to watch it back later, but just to say that I fail to see how Ukraine or Europe can trust the US government on any guarantees right now. If this ceasefire comes in, European countries are going to have to work on getting militarily independent from the US as quick as possible. Putin will probably use any European military buildup as an excuse for cancelling his 50 percent reduction in military spending promise and maybe even a casus belli in the future, but if it wasn't that it'd be something else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭tarvis


    Europe, the entire continent (not the EU ) is going to have to wake up and unite to assist Ukraine before Trump Putin wrecks Ukraine Europe and the world. This display from the White house is so depressing

    The USA has a lot of lots but it will never ever have enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,666 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Do we think he will talk down Martin aswell?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,777 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Yes I agree. It's very sad. I agree its horrible to see.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Dogey McDogerson back on the JRE.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,887 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I liked the part where the Beeb reporter on the lawn relating how there was an uncredited Tass person in the meeting room taking part in the media coverage of the meeting before being made leave the room.

    It would be interesting to run a straw poll of US people in Europe today and tomorrow asking them to watch the recording of the meeting and ask them if they would praise Trump and Vance for the disrespectful way they treated their guest, asking him if he wanted to start WWIII.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,347 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    At least we know who the good guys and the bad guys are.

    The Putin bots will love all this, but I imagine most people in Europe will be behind Zelensky and against Trump / Putin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,523 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Trump smartly-sarcastically to Zelensky “and he’s all dressed up.”

    One time I’d side with Donald!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,398 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Jezuz H- what a bastard Trump and his lapdog are at this press conference - talk about them wanting him to beg - Martin needs to watch himself - while Zelensky is very defensive I can’t help but think it was a complete set up - Zelensky has more bravery in his little finger than the whole of the White House - this was a complete set up



  • Subscribers Posts: 42,961 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Wow, trump actually told the president of the Ukraine, an invaded country, that THEY put themselves in this position????

    What the actual ****???

    There is simply no defense for this disgusting rhetoric



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,295 ✭✭✭jojofizzio


    Did they actually meet privately before the press were invited in to record the episode we all saw?

    Or was that their meeting?🤔🫣🫣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭Private Joker


    Not posting links to X anymore so heres a capture that says it all.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,481 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Well, that was about as bad as the most pessimistic person could have envisioned.

    If there is to be any sort of positive, it will be the jolt that their conduct sends through America.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,107 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    And the Taoiseach is next into the lions den



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭Cushtie


    That was shocking, Diplomacy gone out the window. Speaking to another President like that in public is just not the done thing. Behind closed doors fine, have at it, but that was a tough watch. That Vance is some moron.



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