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Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 2025Connacht


    In the short term looking at the other fixtures this is a good weekend for Connacht to leap up the table to in or around the play offs. It has to be a 5-0 result really if we are to give ourselves any sort of slim chance of Top 8.

    After that I'm not confident for any of the next 4 league games but we have to give ourselves a chance. We have no margin for error this weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    Hard to see it. Joey had neither luck nor love within the Irish system and is now getting plenty of game time in Bordeaux where he's surely on great money. And it's not like he could play himself back into Irish contention, that boat has sailed.



  • Posts: 146 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    100% agreed.

    He's also half way through a two year contract at Bordeaux and getting regular game time. I don't see why he'd want to move this Summer unless Bordeaux want to replace him.

    He'll also be EQP via his mother this Summer which will make him more interesting to Premiership clubs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,030 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Mack Hansen to sign a 2 year contract extension. Will be on a central contract with IRFU so should free up some money for Connacht. A good chunk of which will probably have to be spent on a new 10.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 Gaztric


    With Hanrahan gone and possibly Jack and Josh leaving, might Ben Healy and Charlie Tector be realistic options? Healy is not getting a look in for Scotland and will be IQ again in about one and a half years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,672 ✭✭✭testtech05


    Bar goal kicking is Healy any better than what we already have? Admittedly I haven't seen an awful lot of him over the last season or more but he seems to be way down the pecking order with Edinburgh.

    The news about Mack is great and well deserved



  • Posts: 146 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Even if Healy would be IQ again in 18 months it does very little to help justify recruiting him to the IRFU. He isn't the kind of player we need anyway.

    If Harry Byrne could keep himself fit I'd be asking the IRFU to let us put a serious deal on the table for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,798 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    It looks like Ross Byrne is off to England anyway. Pity we couldn't get him. He's not great but he's solid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭ShineyShiney


    Ahhh now, Ross Byrne has 20+ Irish caps, about 150+ Leinster caps and is a high quality player. Top end kicker and decent game manager.Perfect age and durable as well. If we get anyone close to his standards we will be doing very well.

    I would say he had multiple options in Ireland, France, UK and further afield.

    Great news on Mack!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭ShineyShiney


    There's another Connacht Aussie could do with a central contract as well.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭kita99


    New Dexcom stadium needs some popular players. From the point of view, I think that Connacht is in ideal position. Connacht have a strong and stable pack include Cian (hopeful) Murphy, SHL, Boyle, Jansen, Joyce, Murleys and front rows. Now Mack remains, so Connacht can make good backline line-ups for example (imo) 9 M.Devine or Murphy, 10 Forde or Naughton, 11 Hansen or Smith, 12 Gavin or J.Devine, 13 Hawkeshaw or Ralston, 14 Bolton, Treacy or Mullins, 15 O'Connor, Jennings or Treacy. I think that (coming 2 years) it's enough to be best 8 in the league. The problem will be defending abilites of them. The supporters may need some patience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    From Wilkins interview with the 42. Looking at extending Ioane and are in negotiations. Trying to sign jack Carty on again too. No mention of a new 10 at all and stated both Forde and Hawkshaw are not 10s but utility backs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    He absolutely should be on one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭RonnieL


    Starting to see Finlay being discussed as a potential Lion - now wouldn't that be something?

    It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the 6 nations plays out for him, and whether Furlong comes back at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,640 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Don't see why not, he's been excellent and Fagerson is the only real lead candidate in Furlong's absence. I'd personally be very surprised if Furlong plays again this season, let alone between now and the Lions announcement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Joma4good


    That would be a terrible move on both of those players, JC has long since seen his best days and just isn’t reliable enough anymore. Ioane the same v.unreliable off the boot but can produce good running options against weaker sides. Ben Healy would be a better option than either of those, not the most dynamic 10 but able to play the game in the right areas with great kicking and take points when on offer. Our lack of ability to close out games or lose big leads has a big impact on our current league position and I think some of that is due to having such unreliable kickers that even when we win penalties or turnovers we can’t capitalise by getting distance from hand or the ball through the posts.

    I accept Healy has fallen well below expectations this season at Edinburgh but was impressive with Munster and in his first season in Scotland, he seems reasonably robust too, which is something that H. Byrne and to a lesser extent Frawley struggle with. They’d equally be an upgrade if they could stay fit. I had hoped that Forde could make the transition to 10 but his kicking from hand has been underwhelming and fails to get us the field position/release of pressure we need in games. His ability to play off 10 is so valuable I think we waste him (bit like Frawley) as a utility back.



  • Posts: 146 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't Ben Healy is a serious option. He's got a big boot but he's just not the quality of player we want have running the attacking talent we can put on the pitch. He's looked poor in the matches I've watched him play for Edinburgh. Also, I suspect the IRFU wouldn't be particularly keen on bringing him back. He played for Scotland A in November so he's still NIQ for almost three more years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭AccidentallyOnside


    I think I need to hire whatever PR company that Ben Healy has hired because he always has people defending him online despite him never having delivered performances to merit that. At Munster he had one short stint where he was 1st choice when Crowley was very young and Cadbury was injured. After that he was third choice. Moved to Scotland where the hype seems to have followed him but once he was judged on performances he dropped down the pecking order very quickly.

    Not saying he's a terrible player, big and robust with a big boot but he's a reserve player at URC level; every coached he has had has judged him to be that level and no team with any ambition is looking at him as a 1st choice 10.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Joma4good


    Does NIQ come into the equation though if you’re considering Ioane instead of Healy? All hypothetical I know as poss not available or willing to come back into the Irish system so quickly, who would you go for ? Harry Byrne is so injury prone it’d seem an expensive gamble in a position where we don’t have enough options, a bit like Killgallen and Munster.



  • Posts: 146 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think NIQ will definitely be a factor when if we asked the IRFU to bring back someone distinctly mediocre, who is nowhere near the Ireland depth chart, and who chose to leave not long ago. If - and it's an huge if - Ioane can build some more consistency in his kicking game then we have a great strike runner who scares defences. He's already here and in my opinion it's a far better risk reward balance for an NIQ spot.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Joma4good


    I’d agree that’s a good option but if Ioane’s kicking was likely to improve I think it’d have happened by now. Need someone new to fill the 10 jersey.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭lavrenti


    Frawley is the best option.



  • Posts: 146 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'd be happy to take a punt on Frawley if we could get him. His kicking and running game are good enough that Connacht could afford to develop him further by playing him continuously at ten.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭Strand1970


    Healy was 3rd choice at munster and now out of favour in Edinburgh. That would indicate he would be connachts 3rd choice. Unless he is willing to play for small money I can't see him being signed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭kita99


    I wonder that people do not pay attention to the defending abilities (especially tackling). I think that Ioane and Cordero are weak tacklers. B.Murphy who is praised by all people is a weak tackler too. If not, Leinster did not release him imo. If Connacht want to win coming close and low-score games, Connacht shouldn't use such weaker tacklers. Forde is one of the hardest tacklers in this team (BKs) alongside Hawkshaw, Gavin, Devines,Bolton, Treacy, Ralston etc. and he is long kicker, strong line-breaker and good passer. So I think that he is first choice FH in current situation. Now, Ireland A didn't select him at 12 or 13. So his surviving way seems only at 10. Connacht must give a chance to this talented native player for Dexcom Stadium.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 Gaztric


    Rod Seib an Australian joining Connacht. Don't know in what capacity yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 Gaztric


    Sorry should have said as a coach!



  • Subscribers Posts: 43,336 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Most likely as attack coach?? I think that's the position he held at the brumbies



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 Gaztric


    It was mentioned on here that Connacht are after a DOR, possibly Seib?



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  • Posts: 146 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't know anything about the guy but the career path he's had very much points to an Attack Coach role. The last thing we need right now is an inexperienced DoR / Head Coach who also doesn't understand IRFU politics.

    That DoR rumour looks like it was just a single post on X with about 10 replies. I'll believe it when I see the media in another country pre-announce it before the IRFU have completed the deal. 😁



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