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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,396 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    I didn't find it particularly striking, although I understand your point. However, the fact is that it's never about the US. It's always about Trump. In every conceivable way. The only way Trump's brain works is "How can I use this situation in order to increase my greater glory?"

    Anyone that thinks Trump is in this for anything other than the enrichment of his ego is either deluded, or not all their dogs are barking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭purifol0


    Did you even read your own link??

    The article now clarifies that nine out of 10 Ukrainian outlets receive international aid and USAID is the main donor.

    I said 90% received USAID funding, thats true!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭purifol0


    Do you get tired of being proved wrong, or do you just not live in Ireland???

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/business/companies/arid-41569396.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I didn't realize Ireland was representative of all European sales.... Your point is reinforcing the fact Tesla sales are dropping, not increasing. Ireland is an anomaly at best.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,727 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭purifol0


    Ireland is an anomaly??? This website is a frickin .ie forum.

    Secondly you attributed lowering of tesla sales to Musk, does that somehow not apply here where everyone hates him too?

    Or is it because the EU raised tariffs on all the bargain Chinese cars?

    Real head scratcher that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Now, to be totally honest, he is also in this for the enrichment of his pocket.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 7,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    Mod note:

    Good evening everyone. purifol0 is on a break at the moment, so please do not quote their posts.

    Thank you

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,518 ✭✭✭Patser


    Yeah, I get that too. Trump is a narcissist and it is all about him.

    But It's the blatantness that strikes me. Normally when some big country or business is trying to shaft people for their own gain, they'll try be subtle and hide it.

    Trump literally screams it's all for Me!!!!! And Americans go 'That's our guy!'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,224 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    He is proposing a 25% tariff o EU goods to be put in place soon. The EU will obviously have to hit back. With Tesla sales collapsed might have nothing to put tariffs on

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,611 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    The EU is basically the one market he can't bully. So will be interesting to see how that turns out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,189 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Surely Trump is compromised. He must be a Russian asset.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,042 ✭✭✭✭briany


    This has been alleged with the recent 'Krasnov' story, and that he was 'got at' in the late 80s on a visit to Moscow. Whether or not this is true is quickly verging on being irrelevant, in my opinion, because it wouldn't hurt his standing with one half of America and the other half already aren't exactly fans of his. His position would remain as is, and foreign leaders would therefore still have to deal with him on the basis of the power he wields.

    Although, I would be interested to know what exactly 'asset' means. I mean, on one level it's clear: a benefit to the Russians, but more to what level of cooperation these assets operate. Are they people who are predisposed to being favourable to the Russians because they're reactionaries, or is it more like they're getting coded messages on a little shortwave radio?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,396 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    You summed it up in your last sentence there. This is the president they voted for. Its a shame that the rest of us have to live with the consequences.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,365 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    "The European Union was formed to screw the United States - that's the purpose of it and they've done a good job of it," he said. "But now I'm president." "We'll be announcing [tariffs] very soon, it'll be 25% generally speaking and that will be on cars and all other things." https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c05ml3q2gn7o

    Luv the language Donald 😃



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭tarvis


    Usaid was indeed used as a political tool to influence people and countries to look towards the USA. And it may have been run in a careless manner. However Usaid also funded small clinics and projects run by locals in the poorer parts of cities and in rural areas all over the developing world and in war torn countries where people received the drugs, the medical assistance or the food they need on a daily basis to survive.

    It cannot be beyond the wit of men who have accumulated an excess of everything of this worlds goods to reform what needs reforming without destroying the lifelines and livelihoods of people who have nothing and no chance of accumulating anything.

    The thoughtlessness, the triumphalism, the care- less -ness is both sickening and sad to see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,649 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Its all a bit surreal and prescient that video.

    A pity McSavage isnt still on tv, he'd have lots to work with these days. Funny guy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,649 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    That Krasnov story is utter nonsense.

    If Trump was a Russian asset since 1987 dont you think a smoking gun would have been found long before now.

    No stone would have been left unturned to find it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    IMG_0582.jpeg

    Was he this orange this in his first term ? He has really looked awful of late, Scaramucci was only recently talking about how disheveled Trump was looking. I know his father went senile at a similar age and started alarming people around him by wearing a bizarre wig, maybe we are approaching a similar situation ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    IMG_0583.jpeg

    A great shot from the first cabinet meeting that shows the true power dynamic in the administration.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,891 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    The meeting where Trump told his cabinet members [the ones who went through the Congress Appointment hearings routine] that if any of them were unhappy with Musk, to speak up and leave.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,329 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Just tells vicious lies every single time he opens his mouth.

    There were a lot of lies the 1st term too of course, but I think it is much worse now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,042 ✭✭✭✭briany


    There's just so much bizarre about it all, and it's all too easy to become numb to it - for it to just be 'normal', but the sitting president of the USA tweeting out a video of Gaza turned into a resort and a big golden statue of himself in the centre will never be normal. To even suggest ten years ago anything of the sort would ever occur would have been considered complete lunacy.

    With respect to that, it's easy to overlook that Musk appears to have cobbled together his own signature outfit for his DOGE duties, consisting of a black blazer over a t-shirt, black trousers and a black hat with 'Make America Great Again' written on it in dark gothic font. He's basically Colin Hunt from the Fast Show without endearing qualities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,044 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    It's short sighted by the the US in every sense.

    It has created a gap for other countries seeking to gain influence to fill the gap made by the US withdrawing funding. China apparently are doing this in a number of areas already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,891 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Following on from the Macron/Trump media presentation [where the European had to take the Yank in hand to straighten out the facts for him] I'm waiting to see how the UK PM handles any misinformation from the Yank at their media presentation [if there is a media presentation on how their talks about Ukraine went].

    This from the Russians will undoubtedly put a fly in the Trump ointment:

    For Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, it's “unacceptable” to see troops under European banners on Ukrainian territory. Even for peacekeeping purposes.

    The head of Russian diplomacy has no intention of letting Europe deploy soldiers to monitor a possible ceasefire as part of a peace agreement. Sergei Lavrov repeated: this is “unacceptable”. There is no question of peacekeeping troops in Ukraine flying the European Union flag or national flags, particularly in the context of collaboration between France and the United Kingdom. In his view, the presence of European soldiers would be an attempt to “prolong the conflict”. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭King Power Fox


    The Fanta Fraud looks like he is checking his phone. Obviously not interested in Musk's BS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,125 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    America is leaving itself massively exposed security wise with all this madness.


    Years of built up intelligence and security all being brushed aside and erased within a few weeks.


    He is definitely an agent. 100% compromised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,189 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    When I say Trump is a Russian asset, can I point at the following, just from the top of my head:

    • Interceding in Russian war of aggression against Ukraine on Russia's behalf.
    • Suggesting Ukraine concede territory
    • Suggesting NATO an impossibility for Ukraine
    • Outlandish demand of 50% of Ukrainian natural resources
    • Voting with Russia and against allies at the UN
    • Normalising relations with Russia, and increasing economic cooperation
    • Attacking allies such as Canada, and the EU both diplomatically and economically
    • Threatening sovereignty of allies
    • Withdrawing military support for allies
    • Gutting US federal institutions and putting in hard right grifter cronies to head them
    • Going beyond military support for genocide in Gaza to actively look to join ethnic cleansing
    • Destroying US aid agencies, a source of significant soft power
    • Etc.

    Trump completely destabilised the global order in about a month or so. Who is the beneficiary?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Hodger


    When Trump was re elected back in november I was neutral neither pro nor anti Trump.

    At the time some self pro claimed Irish patriots cheered his re election I dont think I have to name names.

    Anyone familar with Irish twitter will likely know who I am talking about.

    But given a string of recent developments,

    Trump stating he impose 25% tariffs on Imports from the eu.

    Trump siding with russia against ukraine at the UN.

    Trump seeming to side with russia with what conditions & terms are to be agreed upon for ending the war.

    Trumps statement on taking over gaza.

    Trump aiming to reduce military spending by 50% and trying to naively get russia and china to do the same.

    I cant for the life of me see what the positives are with this string of foreign policy developments.

    If the tariffs issue do cause some eu countries to go into recession; its beyond me how people calling themselves Irish patriots could cheer on such a man if we end up in recession over him.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,408 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    So, in terms of Trumps “threatened” tariffs of 25% -do we know what goods are most at risk? And coming from America again, what industries might “suffer”

    I place “suffer” in inverted commas simply because if it’s a global drinks brand say, it might not suffer all that much.

    As a citizen, Trump can quite simply go #%£$* himself - and so too can the media - people are going berserk over soundbytes - can we analyse at least this repeated claim of tarrifs and either be clear on what it might mean for us all here in Europe or just slam dunk it and move on - knowing the threat is half the battle in countering it- but let’s do it in terms of clear facts



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