General Premier League Thread 2024-25

That's such a ridiculous road to go down. You just cant compare eras from generation to generation. The football is different, the pace of play is different, the style is different.

I remember Gordon Stracan in studio back in the day, this would have been the mid 00's and he used to be irritate at the diving and general state the game was in compared to the game he played back in the 80's and early 90's. The studios would have been full of guys like him.

also the model of management has changed from an absolute ruler who made all transfer decisions (Alex and arsene) to an executive that shared the responsibility.

And most of the players playing today wouldn't have hacked playing against these guys because they are too fooking soft

I don't what you were replying too, I just took you up on the issue where you stated one team would would dominate a certain era because of x, y and z. Which is absolutely impossible to quantify.

Players are professionals, players adapt to the current environment.

Whatever the game dictates players to be, at that specific time, they will be.

You cannot compare the eras - different things being asked of players then and now.

that’s obviously not true. You can only control your own points, not anyone else’s. Declaring them irrelevant because of circumstances beyond anything in your own club is a bit nonsensical.

Obviously winning trophy’s is the goal of all teams, but points are a great benchmark by which you can grade the week in week out quality of a team in a season - especially in the context of a side with 130 charges of cheating against them.

I'm basing it on them paying 70m for him, him improving and Newcastle no longer in need of money for PSR. Shearer is also adamant that it'll be 150m needed to get him.

Now maybe they'll deal at 80/90m + a player in exchange but I honestly don't see him leaving this summer.

Newcastle didn't pay £70M for him, it was reported in Spain as €70M including add-on clauses. They were willing to make an offer that exceeded the €65M release clause so that they wouldn't have to pay Real Sociedad the full amount up front to complete the transfer. The fee was approximately £60M including add-ons.

My grandparents emigrated from Cork to London in the 1940s. When Frank O'Farrell signed for West Ham from Cork United he became good friends with my grandfather. My grandparents used to take in young Irish players that joined London clubs particularly West Ham and help them settle. Years later O'Farrell managed Man Utd and asked my uncle who was living in Manchester if he'd be willing to do something similar for the young players that joined the club.

My grandfather was always adamant that Irish people living in England should only support West Ham or Man Utd because they properly looked after the young Irish players. Of course he was biased in his opinion and for his sins he raised a bunch of Chelsea supporters. 🤣 The youngest son was the rebel of the family and he chose to support Liverpool because the club wasn't in London and there was a rivalry between the cities of Liverpool and Manchester. My parents weren't football fans and as soon as I was old enough he indoctrinated me.

Ah come on, the two can't be compared, obviously.

The point was that there's usually a resetting and rebuilding to be done after a successful, big personality leaves a club.

Important win for Chelsea, even if it is against a relegation team. Hopefully Liverpool and Spurs can do us a couple of favours tomorrow night now.

Palmer's form is a massive worry now though.

Major blow for Villa, they will struggle to contend for a CL place now. Might not be in Europe at all next season.

Yes but several of those teams have 2 games in hand and all the rest have one in hand.

Arsenal aren't scoring 3 against Forest. They barely have a front line. Forest will beat Arsenal