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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭Field east


    with all the upheavel caused in the US re people at the top/ very senior staff, etc, etc let go and others staying on in their positions but with an uncertain future- not knowing what Musk might do next - is there a possibility that that ‘ skill set would be interested in moving to England/Ireland /Europe ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,456 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Interesting development yesterday. Worth watching.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    We done fairly well out of the Trump circus the first time around

    Todays Irish times been discussing it (not gonna link cause paywall)

    Trump and Musk’s war on science presents a startling opportunity for Ireland

    Fintan O’Toole: Trump is complaining that we pick America’s pocket. Fair enough – we should instead pick America’s brains”

    aside; I was told to prepare for interviews as team size doubling in size with hiring not in US but Ireland and Europe in my US MNC employer

    I suspect companies will make alot of noises about investment in US while stealthily doing opposite

    The penny is starting to drop with likes of JPM saying US is now considered hostile to business, which is insane



  • Subscribers Posts: 710 ✭✭✭FlipperThePriest


    It certainly seems as if the surface has only just been scratched, and even at that there seems to be a state of numbness and disbelief, or just an unwillingness to acknowledge what's going on… which is exactly what a new autocrat in the making will want.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Pretty much

    Currently it looks like the US will be allowing Hitler to keep most of what he's invaded, getting the invaded countries to pay the US back for it's support, then giving Hitler every concession he wants and doing business deals with him + forming a new relationship with him.

    I'm 100% for Ukraine getting a break after 11 years of war - but yeah even the wildest predictions of how much Trump would bend and fawn to Putin hasn't come close to the reality of it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    After three full years of the three day war

    Special Military Operation is rebranded as Special Mining Operation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,879 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    I'd be amazed if the so called peace deal was anything other than Russia keeping the lands they took

    Virtually a given at this stage IMO. Zelensky barely even bothering to push back…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,230 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Trump was absolutely rinsed by Macron… so I expect Macron to be labelled a 'dictator' or a 'loser' fairly soon. No doubt Musk will be first up to bat shortly enough..

    This is a good watch..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,525 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    This is a critically important thing to be aware of. It's one thing for the average joe in America to get the their taxes raised and get screwed out of some money, Trump was always going to do that, but now he's going to start impacting bigger players.

    The likes of the tech bros are going to start realizing soon (minus Musk who seems to have gone completely in on supplying the US everything) that he's screwing them as well as the little guys. If other countries find the US hard to deal with, they will pull away. It's no surprise companies will want to appear more European with the recent surge they've had in the markets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Good news but how many troops would that even be. A half a dozen maybe a dozen carried by that vehicle?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,018 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Well maybe they think that Trump is on a mission from God, but he's leading them straight to hell..The internet is full of American's saying that , "Sure he was saying all these thing's, but we never thought thats what he actually meant..or it wouldn't affect them". By the time the mid-terms come round, no one can say that they didn't know what Trump is doing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    Musk is an interesting one, books will be written about how the MAGA mind virus took down one of the richest persons in world

    He is playing with fire and he is too stupid to see it, he will either cut something critical which will cause an epic backlash from US public or/and Trump would get jealous that he is stealing spotlight from him (no one does that to Trump) and fires him

    Where does that leave him? Tesla is now hated and being destroyed by China, X is a shrinking ever more toxic money pit, other tech giants are miles ahead of him in AI and robotics

    That leaves SpaceX which either:

    • Trump in a spat with Musk literally takes away under something like Defence Act or just plain breaking laws
    • The next administration take’s away since well the president can do anything right

    there’s a chilling third option where Trump goes full metal Putin and dismantles the US republic and Musk remains as the Prime Oligarch, tho that didn’t end well for Russian oligarchs either

    There is no scenario where in 5 years Musk is better off, none, he’s fucked



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭threeball


    I'm not sure he'll be alive in 5yrs. He's pissing off an awful lot of people and it only takes one in a country full of guns to tip over the edge. Probably a betrayed MAGA head.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Peskov reiterates comments made by Russian officials for months now that Nato peacekeepers are unacceptable. Pointless talking about peacekeepers when those seeking peace are months away from peace.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,821 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Unacceptable? Everything russia has done to Ukraine could be considered unacceptable



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    He'll likely gravitate a lot more towards Putin who will eagerly open all sorts of business opportunities to him - all drenched in corruption and Kompromat of course



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,208 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Do you seriously think that the country that quite happily stomachs the killing of school children year-in-year-out (for the sake of the right to bear arms) would be the least bit bothered by the deaths of a few foreigners?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,068 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    "Here is Europe. We have happily paid three times as much to Ukraine as the USA. We are not asking for anything in return and we are not extorting the Ukrainians while they are fighting for their lives. Because we are not assholes." - Rasmus Jarlov, Chairman of Denmark's Defence Committee.

    A delightful slap in the face for the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,068 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Agent Kravnov proof.jpeg

    Agent Kraznov, I presume.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,204 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    You've unintentionally stumbled across the issue and you are wrong to say it's just MAGA.

    Europe has lived off a peace dividend provided by the largesse of American defence since the end of the Cold War. Europe did not invest in it's own defence. We slashed defence budgets under the false assumption a country separated by two vast oceans would forever care enough to keep footing that bill.

    American taxpayers are 100% in the right here. Europe has taken advantage.

    You might not like the messenger. That does not mean the message is wrong.

    European countries have to step up and take their own security responsibilities more seriously.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,861 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Nope. It is MAGA.

    For the umpteenth time, the USA designed the postwar world with itself firmly installed as global hegemon. It's not the fault of Europeans that Americans have handed their country over to plutocrats and oligarchs.

    It's funny how MAGA-types never ever ever criticise either US corporations, the plutocrats or the disgusting subsidies that the federal government hands them year after year while said government ensures that the merest crumbs are handed to the American taxpayer.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,068 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,204 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    It's absolutely true.

    Now we see the panic on a continent that has been reckless with it's own defence and has no serious arguments to make.

    I'm happy to see defence budgets will increase significantly in the coming years and America will no longer be taken advantage of.

    This is in Europe's interests. America has bigger fish to fry in the Asia Pacific.

    It doesn't mean America will abandon Europe. It means protection will be more fairly balanced in the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,068 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    The EU is actually trolling President Krasnov. They are proposing their own rare earth minerals deal that's far more beneficial to Ukraine.

    Z: 'Sorry agent Krasnov, someone offered us a much better deal.'

    Australia should make an offer, South Korea, Japan - it would be much needed humour in these dark times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Like the other poster said, it is MAGA and how they do things.

    American foreign policy has been the same for decades. Through Republican and Democrat presidents. Now the world has only had months (or weeks) to adjust to dramatically different and unpredictable policy.

    And often only days or hours to react to a sudden shift.

    Dictators were bad, now they are good. Allies are now enemies. Or not. Depends which day it is. Canada/Greenland/Panama are places to be annexed.

    And the hastily arranged script is "well they should have been prepared"

    For what exactly, the whims of a populist?

    It can take years to facilitate national change and adjust, did previous US presidents take that into account? Of course.

    Does Trump? No.

    Maybe he'll leave NATO tomorrow, maybe he'll stay in 4 years. No one knows. But we can't magically alter to entire structure of NATO overnight to cater to his whims of someone who might say yes or might say no at a moments notice.

    Europe does need to improve it's defense, it needs to do many things - but it also now has the added challenge of trying to handle a highly erratic circus of a schizophrenic WH that not even it's supporters can predict.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭yagan


    Wouldn't a withdrawal from NATO require a vote by both houses though?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    Dictator for a day doesn’t need checks and balances

    Unrelated Germans think Ukraine now has artillery parity with Russia

    1:1.6 ratio but Ukrainian hits much more precise



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 674 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post


    If it does - The cult* party are in majority there too.

    *I may have misspelled 🤭



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭yagan


    There seems to be a good few republicans, some noted on this thread already, vocally opposing any alliance shift that favours Russia.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,651 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    100% agree its overdue for European countries to step up, Ireland included, our "neutrality" is a naivety in today's world.

    For all that, the Americans getting into bed with the Russians and North Koreans and Belarus's of the world is abhorrent also.

    Have a weather station?, why not join the Ireland Weather Network - http://irelandweather.eu/



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