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Update to census search on NAI

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭BowWow


    On the bright side, assuming the 1926 Census is eventually added to the "New" site, any bugs should be well ironed out before the launch in April 2026.

    Post edited by BowWow on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭Jellybaby_1


    We live in hope.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭55Gem


    Making the search difficult to use thick’s all the boxes for modern accessibility!
    Someone didn’t read the brief properly.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,625 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Yeah Gem, that's my feeling on the matter too.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,857 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    The 1926 census is the first census where people completed it in Irish using the old Irish script. This is causing an extra challenge for the digitisation.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,210 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    Why mess with something that works fine and most people are familiar with, it makes no sense. Busy work? The existing census website is great, easy to use, clear results. The new search results seems cumbersome. I prefer lists, it’s easy to see a lot of information together.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,625 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    I've pointed out exactly this in a follow-up email to the NAI.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,210 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    delete…



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    This isn't the case. There's a few examples on 1901 and many many examples from 1911 in Irish. They were partially transcribed for the current site into modern Irish by a native Irish-speaking genealogist.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Here's a video on the new site - if you prefer a visual discussion!

    Genealogy Forum Mod



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭kildarejohn


    One peculiar aspect of the new site is that some of the data has been re-transcribed e.g. A person who on the original hand written form had written "no occupation" had exactly that transcribed on the old site, but on the new site has "unemployed" - this is rather misleading considering that she was 69!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭cobham


    I notice there has been a 'refresh' of the BMD page. Is there one step less before access?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    @Cobham - let's keep that for the separate thread, thanks.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 Comsewogue


    This is likely because of the incoming EU Accessibility Act 2025. The site is likely certifiably "accessible", i.e. it meets the technical criteria for accessibility (I haven't tested it, so don't quote me on that…).

    However, that doesn't mean that the redesign made the best user experience (UX) decisions. Clearly, from feedback so far, people are finding it less "usable" than before (important to draw the distinction between usable and accessible, though both measures should be aimed for).

    Hopefully, there will be a process of continuous improvement implemented (though I'm not holding my breath), where user feedback and testing result in continuous adjustments to the design to create the optimal workflows for users.

    FYI, I am a very experienced UX Designer and this update definitely could have been better. I'd love to know which group was involved with it.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    The web developers are linked at the bottom of the homepage.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭BowWow


    Delete, posted in error 🙄

    Post edited by BowWow on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,210 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    Aghhh, just used irishgeneaology and the new search results layout are so awful compared to the old version IMO. The results of a simple search gave me 175 records on 18 pages (10 pp) to scroll through. The old output would have been about 3 pages with a list of records easily visible at a glance.

    How can anyone think this is better? Who makes these decisions? Do professional genealogists have any input into decisions made by public servants who are not the users of these services? It is bonkers.

    Edit: maybe it’s just me and other users prefer the new search results ☹️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,666 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Has it been redesigned for mobile devices perhaps?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,210 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    Not sure but I’ve mostly used it on a mobile. I find the new layout cumbersome and time consuming compared to the previous version.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,625 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Just a reminder that this page is for discussing the update to the census website.

    The thread for discussing the update to the Irish Genealogy website is here - LINK.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,210 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    Sorry, didn’t realise there was a separate thread.



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