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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,856 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    They're just opinion polls. The only one that counts will be in 2029. What will most likely happen between now and then is that Labour's lead will shrink and the Conservatives will recover some of their lost votes in 2024.

    As for why, that's easy. A lot of people in any country seem happy to vote based on culture war stuff and Farage is in a much stronger position there than Kemi Badenoch.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,402 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Reuters report that Trump and Russian officials have been meeting in secret for the last few weeks, including a meeting in Switzerland last week. Lots of dodgy stuff going on behind the scenes between the two it would appear : not just the supposed phone call and meeting in Saudi.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭poop emoji


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    A timely reminder especially since he is now over 25 years in power



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,805 ✭✭✭threeball


    It will really suit Erdogan if the US withdraw from NATO and Europe too as it weakens their support for Israel and that makes Turkey the main player in the middle east and one of the top dogs in NATO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,805 ✭✭✭threeball


    I really don't understand the delay in putting this money to use. Russia absorbed billions in foreign assets, mostly European in the opening weeks of the war. 4 years later we're still humming and haa'ing about whether its legal to take these funds. Its crazy stuff. You have a country openly threatening war on you including nuclear attacks and we're waffling about the intricacies of international investment. Utterly bonkers



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Wouldn't be surprised if Orban bouncing between Moscow and Florida last year was in aid of this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Fr D Maugire


    So let's get this right. Ukraine started the war because a US official refused to publicly acknowledge that NATO would not expand to Ukraine. It takes some real mental gymnastics to get from that to Ukraine started the war. I have listened to Sachs, Mearsheimer and Greenwald and whilst they claim NATO caused or provoked the war, I don't think any of them ever claimed Ukraine started the war the way Trump did.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,212 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I bet Finland and Sweden are glad they joined NATO and I'd say every other NATO country is relieved they did. Important addition.

    I just flew home from Lithuania a few hours ago, a country who are under no illusion that were it not for their membership of NATO, they would have long since been ‘liberated’ by Russia…

    We have a holiday house there, so we are there quite a lot and it’s a nice comfort to know we are under a blanket of protection from NATO forces, like the patrol I saw the other day..

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    We’re not too far from an airport, and it’s not uncommon to see Typhoons or transporters coming and going…

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    but having experienced a few sonic boom’s in the house I can say that each and every one of them scares the absolute bejaysus out of us all…


    And just to put it out there for the Orwell Rd folk on thread, there aren’t any NAZI’s in Lithuania that the population need liberating from…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,805 ✭✭✭threeball


    Is Rupert having a little crisis wondering if supporting the soon to be dicator in chief wasn't so good for business after all. Fox didn't report on Trumps outbursts over Ukraine either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Musk intends to "fix" Twitter after community notes corrected Trumps rantings.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    Not being able to actually win and Trump really wanting a “win”

    Putin and co will just declare victory in three days (three years into the war he started), reality on ground be damned

    That’s Trumps master plan there, deny there is a war because his genius solved it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    On social media, about a week ago, I saw people talking about a flight radar record of a US government business jet that landed in Moscow then departed for Warsaw.

    Here it is:



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,902 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Weapons exports need to be approved by the government. There is precedent for cancellation by the government of a contract after it had been executed. The obvious example is the US Navy's acquisition of the Kidd class destroyers. After the fall of the Shah, the government wasn't going to give the new Iranian revolutionary government some of the most modern anti-air destroyers in the world, so they nixed the export and kept them for themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    Good time to sell stocks in anything US defence related before King Trump drives whole industry into the ground

    So much for em checks and balances



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭Polar101


    "Finland, Poland and Baltics are freaking out altogether as their whole defence policy was turned upside down overnight"

    Well, it hasn't really. Poland has been busy building up their military strength, which makes sense given what has happened to them in various wars over the past 500 years. The Baltics have always known if a war with Russia starts, they'll be the first ones attacked and as small countries can only do so much about it. Finland's defense policy only exists to counter a Russian invasion. Any country close to Russian border knows they will need to rely on themselves first, before any help can arrive. For Finland joining NATO has increased the chances of someone coming to help, but it has made zero chances in their defense policies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Okay maybe not 'instantaneous'

    Lieutenant General Ihor Romanenko, former deputy head of the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, told Al Jazeera that Ukraine will need more help than Europe can offer.

    “Europe can’t possibly replace American aid,” he said, adding that Ukraine won’t survive long without US military aid and predicting, “We will last six months.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Another Baltic submarine cable damaged in Sweden's economic zone, hence them doing the investigation. Cable is damaged but still fully functional.

    Sweden has launched an investigation into suspected sabotage after yet another underwater cable in the Baltic Sea was found damaged. The cable links Finland and Germany and is the last of a string of telecom cable disruptions in the region in recent months.

    https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20250221-sweden-launches-probe-after-yet-another-baltic-sea-cable-is-damaged



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    The accuracy of Ukrainian mortar teams! First shot -



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    Here is the Reuters article on these OTHER meetings tween Russia and its new friend the USA. Hard to get head around this. Pretty much 80 years of a world order we have had, now up in smoke. Whats next one wonders, I would still take the imperfect last 80s years vs what could be coming down the track - back to might is right

    https://www.reuters.com/world/americans-russians-have-discussed-ukraine-war-through-swiss-side-channel-sources-2025-02-20/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,402 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Speculation that Trump (plus Musk, Vance etc) and Putin are trying to engineer it so that Zelensky steps aside or is forced out to be replaced by a 'democratically elected' pro Trump / Putin puppet.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭deadduck


    From this article;

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/19/britain-and-france-working-on-plans-for-reassurance-force-to-protect-ukraine

    The country’s defence ministry estimates that 20% of its arms come from the US, compared to 55% from its own manufacturing and 25% from Europe. But the US arms tend to be of a higher quality, the experts added.

    If the US is ‘only’ supplying 20%, and Ukraine and the EU are actively ramping up production, does this not mean that the Ukrainians should be well able to stay in the fight? (Not withstanding potential manpower shortages, but Russia has similar problems there). Their expertise with drones (largely home produced now I believe) and electronic warfare in particular seems to be excellent, allowing them to carry out all sorts of strikes.

    Are the other things the US supplies, like intelligence, logistics, etc., the real kicker here?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Certainly sounds like some people are now a bit upset about Zelensky's behaviour the last few days. No surprise at all to see him getting out of the place and seeking fufuge somewhere in the not too distant future.

    Rubio's comments on things

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,805 ✭✭✭threeball


    Like anyone gives a toss what anyone in the Trump administration says. It carries as much weight as yours.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    You would have to wonder about AFU's huge reliance on Musks STARLINK across the front? Especially now that the US has switched sides. Could we see the AFU getting cut off from Starlink? OR left on it BUT Musk sharing access to Starlink over Ukraine with Putin and Co?

    Again is this a European failure? That by now they have not put up an alt starlink system via ESA, unconnected to Musk?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    May 9th folks, mark it in your diaries. This will be the GREATEST most incredible Celebration ever seen



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,707 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    It would be better to be French Ukrainian, than to be wiped off the face of the earth. France needs to annex Ukraine, recognise it lawfully, booom, they're in the EU, and part of Nato, if the French flag now flies in annexed Ukraine.

    I mean isn't this exactly what Russia has done, and they claim it's fully legit to do so, so how could they even argue with it, seeing as it's exactly what they done.

    Play them at their own game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,773 ✭✭✭Homelander


    After Trump came out and told blatant and outrageous lies on the global stage like a petulant child simply because he didn't get his way and his desired spotlight, no-one apart from Russia actually gives a flying **** what two lads in his back pocket say.

    You know it's bad when your former VP and a load of Republican Senators have to come out and say "Hang on, now…..".

    Democrats are never going to approve of Trump but the complete insanity he and his deranged lap-dog Musk are peddling the last few days on Ukraine has plenty of Republicans baulking too.

    Even Fox News couldn't bring themselves to put out the most outlandish fantasy claims Trump made and they have an article on many high-profile senators refuting the "dictator" thing.

    The stupid thing is Trump has gained nothing from this whatsoever, other than convincing his global allies that he's a huge unreliable man-child and the US cannot be trusted under his tenure.

    If he had just said "We're stopping direct aid to Ukraine, it's time for Europe to do more", I'm not saying it would be popular, but there would at least be a reasoning and logic to it.

    What he actually did, pushing out completely transparent and outrageous lies about Ukraine, cuddling up to Putin, throwing his toys all over the room……on a list of Plans A through Z it shouldn't even have featured.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Seanmadradubh


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    The only people upset about Zelenskys behavior were those who want Ukraine to fall to Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Seanmadradubh


    You said it, if we are to save our way of life and give our children a future where they aren't slaves to Russian or US oligarcs we have to stop "playing nice".

    The biggest power a bully has is fear (which I hear is the mind killer, maby we should permit it to pass over us and through us, then we can sh*t it out all over Russia).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,773 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Trump just backtracked and admitted that Russia started the war in an interview on Fox just this afternoon, according to Sky News.

    Still some broad anti-Zelensky statements but without having heard the interview it is definitely a softening in general language compared to what he was saying the other day.

    I would imagine the blowback he got from within the Republican party was massive. Whatever about support for Ukraine, to be seen on the global stage getting into bed with Russia is a major no-no.

    edit: Removed some quotes as out of context they are not actually that accurate the way they are presented on Sky summary compared to transcript of the interview.



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