Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

I think there's too much pressure on Ukraine, he will have to sign a deal ,don't see an alternative, if anyone here has one ,I'd like to hear it ,Europe and USA supplied weapons, but are basically afraid of trump and tariffs,

40% of ordnance they are using is domestically made.

That's, right, no European country has crossed a single one of Putrid's many red lines… oh wait, they did - almost all of them.

There's a video. Trump sides with these psychopaths…

Don't forget Sweden also joined NATO

So this should scare the bejesus out of many brits waking up this morn.

"Britain needs to call up the reserves for duty and mobilize its economy for war."

Personally I think IT IS this serious, at least to prepare in this manner. I look at completely defenseless Ireland now with many inc the gov thinking ah shur we are neutral AND ignoring that as a neutral country you still have a responsibility to have a defense system and be able to defend yourself. We are so bad now it is at the point of being pointless, I think its too late

The thing about Trump and Putin is that they both got to where they are by not playing by the rules and following agreements and laws

They also both want to tear apart the rules based world order setup post WW2

While their opponents fight with hands tied behind their back

My proposal is that deal with them in same manner they deal with others, flood the zone with nonsense, cheat and lie, say “yeh sure Donnie we sign this agreement and you can have these once the war is over”

What can Trump do when then war is over (which might be past his term), threaten to send troops to Ukraine over minerals? Yeh that go down like a lead ballon with US population

European stocks are up 15% year to date while Trump is creating more and more uncertainty in US and setting up the conditions there for a major economic crash now that his post election rises are rapidly disappearing and investors are getting nervous seeing that he is actually insane enough to create uncertainty especially with allies

Trump has always been very sensitive to the stock markets and imho a lot of the more insane of his carry on was enabled by Biden leaving him with the best economy and market which he is doing his best to destroy

And the stock markets are finally waking up and voting with their feet and betting on Europe

And how do we reconcile that with the hawks and media claims that Putin coming for Europe is all but imminent? We cant be much more powerful and yet totally at Russia's mercy at the same time. One of those narratives has to be bull.

I know which one my money is on. After the banking/Euro crisis and covid to me it seems the next big time public money scam must be on the way.

I disagree

In 2022 yes undoubtedly US support was crucial

But last year we seen that Ukraine didn’t collapse despite protracted period with no support

They since have build up their domestic industry, notice how no one talks about shells anymore because they are now irrelevant on battlefield with Ukraine domestically producing millions of them. Also European countries and companies have helped setup and still building factories there, the Danish and Norwegians have been particularly far sighted imho

Finally Europe is waking up finally to the threat Putin is, France alone this morning is talking about 5% GDP spend which given the size of their economy compared to Russia is huge, UK and so on

Finland, Poland and Baltics are freaking out altogether as their whole defence policy was turned upside down overnight

What Zelensky has to do is stay quiet (or say yes Donnie you want em minerals come and get em they over there in Donbass) for few weeks and watch what happens in Germany where the front runner is very pro Europe and Ukraine and German defence industry and Trumps and Putin’s meddling with AFD is uniting Germans instead of dividing them

In a week or so, mark my words, Trump will get bored and move onto next thing that keeps him top of news, probably a controversy about examining peoples genitals before they go toilet or 💩 ing on disabled people or US military vets or picking a fight with a neighbour

Meanwhile on the ground not much is happening, Russia still hasn’t recaptured Kursk, Pokrovsk stands, and Russian infrastructure is self imploding daily

All the Putin populists like Farage, Orban, AfD and Fico will be exposed. The Russian threat is even bringing the UK back into the continental tent after years of searching for a Global Britain fantasy.

In the past that was true but now its not a given at all. If anything the Republicult BS over the last year has given ample warning for Europe and NATO to build up alternative supply chains in the event of a Trump shìtfest to reduce reliability on a single source and in addition Ukraine has vastly expanded its drone capabilities as well.

Trump if anything is not only shooting himself in the foot but possibly could risk the US being reduced below the EU in importance in the longer run and this would vastly weaken him and his Repubicult as well. The biggest challenge to US dominance is the EU expecially if funds, wealth and IP were to bleed away from the US due to the Orange Felon and his South African Snowflake.

Whatever you want to "put your money on", think I'll bet the other way thanks lol. A surefire win.

If you read threeballs post, he is talking mostly about theoretical future power, once Europeans are united and political/societal will is there for it to happen (pay for the weapons, build them, expand militaries to fill US gaps). Also it doesn't cover a crazy situation where the US not only abandons its allies, but is working against them and helping Russia or something.

I thought latter was impossible, as it is crazy and a massive act of self harm. It does not benefit the US at all. They would be abasing themselves before Putin/Russia, just serving his interests and handing him a huge win for nothing, not to mention the signals it will send out to their non European allies as well (if they supposely are focussed now on Asia/China?). Apart from the morality, it is utterly pathetic and shameful. However after last week or so of events, likelyhood of it must be going up now.

In a way that has started I suppose. With Trump/Musk the same information war in Europe that Russia has been at to crack apart societies, topple governments and bring far right pro Russia populists to power could become US govt. policy now. That was the message I was hearing from Vance's culture war speech at Munich, combined with Musk's backing for likes of AfD and Reform UK parties.

Russia is unlikely to decide to start a war with others while still dealing with Ukraine invasion. If Ukraine gets carved up between the US/Russia in some kind of dirty deal (I think Europeans can stop that, but it is an open question if they will), and the US is also defacto pulling back from NATO and making clear they won't intervene if Russia attacks anyone else in Europe, who knows?

Can you see the headlines on Fox News?

“president trumps give up US territory to Putin”

These Trump people are not serious people (that much been show this week), they don’t care for facts on ground it’s all about narratives and made up realities in their head

Screw them over in their own bullshit

Change the narrative, tie Trump up in so much bullshit that it creates wedges between various arms of the MAGA crazies

And he does watch and care about what Fox News says 😉

he is also a populist and siding with Putin is going down like a lead balloon with anyone who is not in the ultra MAGA wing of his party, it’s also starting to create failures in stock market (see US defence firms vs EU ones this week) which he also watches

Finally he cares about his legacy

He very clearly wants to be the president who “grew America”

Instead Zelensky can make him the “president who was handed land and lost it for America” 😂

like I said. Screw these clowns over with their own bullshit narratives, turn the tables, switch the narrative, feck reality on ground (it’s not moving anywhere anyways)