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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭swampgas


    Remember that Trump only cares about Trump, and Trump needs the current Russian oligarchy in place, as they are supporting him financially, possibly being the only thing preventing him from going bankrupt. He will sell everyone else out, his own country, Ukraine, whoever, to keep Putin & Co. in place, to get their oil infrastructure repaired, and trade restored, just so they have enough money to send him what he needs to keep his business empire afloat.

    Trump can't afford a regime change in Russia. He can't afford to let the Russian economy collapse either. He will end up propping up Putin and his oil business in any way he can, to save his own sorry skin.

    And this is what Europe needs to prepare for. A USA that is going to back Russia over them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,807 ✭✭✭threeball


    Giving everything to one side and nothing to another is not a deal. Any fool can do that. Writing off 80years of partnerships is not a deal either. Trump can't make deals, he wouldn't fail in every business if he could. Just because he titled a book the art of the deal does not make him a dealmaker. Hes a first class clown.

    Hes exactly like Piers, a waffler who doesn't mind who he hurts as long as he profits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,807 ✭✭✭threeball


    Would you give away half your house then hand over your bank accounts in return for nothing. I think you're almost as good a dealmaker as Trump in that case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    A BRILLIANT Speech .. everyone here should watch this:

    I think he really gets to the core of whats going on now - whats that phrase?

    “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

    He doesnt mince his words and uses indisputable history to make his points. Very elequent also

    Dem. Governor of Illinois Pritzker drew parallels between Trump's populist agenda and the rise of the Nazis prior to World War II in his State budget address on Wednesday.

    "Tyranny requires compliance. Democracy requires courage". - Pritzker



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,402 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    This is a total misrepresentation of what actually happened. It was Trump who raised the idea of Ukrainian minerals for US military aid on Monday, February 3rd. Zelensky gave an interview on Friday, February 7th that he would be very open to the idea of access to some minerals in exchange for military help. Trump then went all mafia gangster in the last few days and demanded $500bn worth of Ukrainian resources - Zelensky naturally told him to get lost.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,603 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    I absolutely agree. I think the word" superpower " can be bandied about far too easily. EG the superpower Russia were/ are unable to overrun Ukraine and previously failed ,as did America in Afghanistan. America completely fucked up in Vietnam and let's be honest has elevated a pompous but intellectually limited loudmouth to the most important job in the country. IMO a united Europe has a much greater claim to superpower status than either russia or America.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭aidanodr




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    History again .. An FYI for some

    From WIKIPEDIA - "Zelenskyy's grandfather, Semyon Zelenskyy, served as an infantryman, reaching the rank of colonel in the Red Army (in the 57th Guards Motor Rifle Division) during World War II; Semyon's father and three brothers were killed in the Holocaust."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,456 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Early reports. Very early..

    Maybe Trump has Ukraine spooked and they feel the need to do something

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,017 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Trump in a bad way financially?? What happened with the Crypto he launched? With him being the main shareholder. After the launch, it went to extreme heights, and just before it collapsed, Trump sold his shares, making a fortune overnight. Many of his MAGA followers were not so lucky..so convinced that anything that had Donnies name on it was a sure fire, cast iron guaranteed winner, they borrowed to buy shares, and as a result were left not only penniless, but in debt.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Excellent indeed.

    When he mentioned deportations, it reminded me of this:

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/19/us/jocelynn-rojo-carranza-gainesville-texas-death/index.html

    She was bullied at school by kids saying she would be left alone when her parents were deported after being reported to ICE.

    Trump's place in history will be one of infamy and disgust.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭brickster69


    The US is opposing calling Russia the aggressor in a G7 statement on the third anniversary of Moscow’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, threatening to derail a traditional show of unity, the Financial Times reports

    https://www.ft.com/content/73809e7a-a772-403a-8755-41a329d6a45d ( paywall )

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭swampgas


    Yeah, it seems improbable at first glance, but stories have been in the press for years about the humungous debt he has accumulated:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2021/10/07/trumps-debt-now-totals-an-estimated-13-billion/

    https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/31/politics/video/trump-debt-growing-dan-alexander-ebof-digvid

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2024/10/30/heres-how-much-money-trump-owes-and-who-stands-to-collect/

    We're taking of billions of debt. And on top of that, very few people are prepared to lend him any (more) money. We don't know how much money he has grifted or siphoned off from MAGA donations over the past few years, or how much he has collected to buy influence, but I think it's very very likely that he is very vulnerable financially.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭zv2


    He is talking here about a deal not about a freebie that Trump wants.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    FPV Gooles Budanov.jpeg

    Going by that expression, I'd say there were results that met expectations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    No one has mentioned something odd that Putrid said vis a vis the PetPuppy talks, where he claimed the Orcs had made a fresh incursion into Ukraine.

    MOSCOW – Kyiv on Feb 19 rejected Russian President Vladimir Putin’s claim that his troops had crossed into Ukraine’s northeastern Sumy region in the first ground attack there since 2022, calling it a “lie”.

    Any attempt by Russia to seize more Ukrainian territory in a new part of Ukraine would mark a fresh escalation in the war, just as US President Donald Trump is pushing for a rapid end to the fighting.

    “I was told an hour ago that at night fighters of the 810th brigade crossed the border of the Russian Federation and Ukraine, and entered the territory of the enemy,” Mr Putin said in televised remarks, adding that “our troops are advancing along the entire contact line”.

    Russian state media reported that the 810th brigade was deployed to Russia’s Kursk region, which borders Ukraine’s Sumy region.

    The DeepState website, with ties to Ukraine’s military, also said that the brigade was fighting in the Kursk region, where Ukraine has been mounting an offensive since August.

    Kyiv rejected the claims of a major Russian operation and said it had destroyed a small sabotage group.

    Given I have heard nothing in the days since Putrid made the claims, I'm siding with Ukraine's claim they snuffed them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,794 ✭✭✭yagan


    I saw that too but all sources were Russian.

    Probably thinking to add more scutter to the Trump flood zone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭zv2


    New American flag-

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    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭Rawr


    And this would be their new Naval Jack

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    Hey….*wait a minute* something seems familiar



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭pcardin


    lol guys, like you never seen this poster and his/her posts before. There has never been a doubt which side of stick they belong



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    A good way to reinvigorate the Scottish independence movement, that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    There's a big difference between offering a partnership at a fair price / access to resources and being held at gunpoint and being robbed blind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭Rawr


    There was actually an early variant of the Union Jack that had the Andrew Cross in the front. But I'll resist going into my Flag nerdism further and bore the thread silly :P



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭carveone


    Pritzker! Jesus wept, he'd know all about tyranny and compliance wouldn't he.

    If you're a big fan of the trans-medical industrial complex, he's the guy (along with the Rothblatt fellow) who started it and has a massive financial stake in it. He's doesn't give two craps about Ukraine. He'd be the guy picking through corpses and wondering what bits he could sell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,207 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    "Russian sources" get in a panic about troop build-ups and coming incursions about once every ten days. Anyone would think they were fighting an enemy ten times their size.

    That said, it seems that some of the concern expressed last month regarding Ukraine's units in and around Pokrovsk collapsing has proven to be misplaced, and the blue-and-yellow team is making steady gains against the red fellas.

    It really feels like Ukrainian drone patrols and drone strikes have created siege-like conditions along the front line, as I predicted some time ago, and the Russians can no longer sustain an effective assault against any particular point for more than a week or two at a time. Their supply lines are too long and thin now, and because - up to now - they had a policy of obliterating every town and village prior to "capturing" it, they've left themselves with no useful urban environments in which to set up forward logistical hubs.

    What would be nice to know is whether Putin is being told that the donkey-brigade has no hope of advancing any further, or does he truly believe that the thoroughly battered and beaten 810th Brigade escaped from Kursk and went on a rampage through Ukraine last night?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I have news for the attention seeking missile - you are not standing 'with' Ukraine unless you are doing the standing in Ukraine - meaning troops and planes facing the same consequences of actually standing in Ukraine being faced daily by Ukrainians.

    "We are convinced of the need to increase our defence and security spending and capabilities for Europe and each of our countries. Decisions will be made in the coming days and weeks."

    Wrong answer to the problem. Flipping Trump the bird, calling him out as an imbecile and Putrid stooge and putting EU member state armed forces in Ukraine is the correct answer.

    Zelensky tried diplomacy with Trump; complimenting him, stroking his ego in the required manner, biting his tongue at appropriate moments, and it all made not a skerrick of difference as to how the orange mongrel actually acted in the end, which was with complete and utter betrayal - a sycophantic sucking up to his Orc master.

    European 'leaders' need to do a lot better than Biden's scurrilous 'whatever it takes, as long as it takes' to save Ukraine, because that's what Macron's statements sound like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Oh that's just terrible news, poor things, I feel so sorry for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    The Europeans cant do any of that. They are vassals and will always defer to the US in the end. The might stamp their feet, shout, beat their chests in a tantrum but in the end they will always comply. They burned their bridges with China, Russia and the rest of the world with their support of israel's attempted genocide in Gaza. They cant go it alone. You can see Macron is already adjusting his position to claim he has always backed Trumps aim to end the war in Ukraine.

    Trump hasn't even treated Europe that badly - Vance gave the Europeans some friendly advice, Hegseth cleared up any misunderstandings about NATO membership/peacekeepers for Ukraine and Kellogg clarified Europe wouldn't have a seat at the US-Russia talks. Trump himself has been very transparent about normalising relations with Russia.

    By comparison Biden blew up critical European infrastructure and forced Europe to comply with a sanctions regime which is leading to the deindustrialisation of Germany - all the while Biden maintained sanctions exceptions for narrow US interests and passed legislation to induce European business to move to the US.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain




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