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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,010 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Channels were kept open.

    As predicted Putin played along, whilst never declaring one ceasefire or making a single overture - it was all an act.

    Post edited by Dohnjoe on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,456 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    True. North Korean soldiers were operating in European soil and nothing was done

    Possibly since most of their effort was around the Kursk area, but still, very embarrassing for Europe.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,356 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Mad ain't it.

    A president of the US using the kremlin tactics of weeding out self thinking journalists from the press briefings by ensuring he has only slave reporters present by the Gulf of America trick. In that any slave that doesn't refer to the body of water as the Gulf of America in writing is not allowed near any briefings. Everytime they refer to it as the Gulf of America they know themselves it is stupid. But they now tell themselves they have to do stupid things and behave stupidly to be near the president. So they lower themselves and become subservient.

    Then have your own representatives refer to you in press briefings and interviews as the greatest president the country has ever seen. Make yourself a cult icon. Tell people you are an icon.

    Then use your position to cowtow to Putin completely and appear cowardly but tell everyone you are the greatest to confuse people. There must be some philosophers and shrinks from the Kremlin working overtime on this project.

    Americans will be more stupid and subservient than the russians when this is all brought to fruition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    I'm not sure why but it's alarming how much this notion of "Russia will try to take over all of Europe" is out there and it doesn't stand up to any reason. Russia invaded Ukraine because Ukraine elected a leader which aligned it with Western powers and threatened their security since they share a vast border which would be impossible to defend if it became littered with American military bases.

    In reality the Russian capture of Ukraine failed miserably and 3 years later after enormous resources invested, international reputation in the gutter and sanctions endured they'll have to settle for just 20% of the territory (which was mostly already heavily aligned to them) and try to spin it as a win.

    The Baltic states have been in NATO for over 20 years and there was never an "advance" on them from Russia. There's no reason for that position to change.

    It's a stroke of sheer luck that the US election went has it did for Russia to have the opportunity to claim this as a very meagre victory. They're not going to try something like this again in a hurry.

    My prediction is Ukraine will retain 80% of its territory, agree not to join NATO and Putin will be satisfied and spin it to the Russian public as a victory and display of Russian might.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,714 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,714 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    ……… At least some are calling out Trump



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭rogber


    Or it's Zelensky who's the poor poker player, that comment could effectively wreck any remaining US support for Ukraine. Did Zelensky tell the truth? Of course. But if you're going to expose the biggest crybaby bully in public you better make sure you have others at your back. Who does Zelensky have at his back? Some "concerned" Europeans who'll no doubt "urge all sides to exercise restraint". What good will that do if America starts actively aiding Putin, which under Trump they could easily do...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    Churchill , Roosevelt, Atlee, Truman, appeased Stalin enormously at the end of world war 2 .Far more than anything chamberlain did with Hitler in 1938 and far more than anything Trump will do with Putin today. It’s an appeasement that never gets highlighted. It’s an appeasement that is considered acceptable . . It’s an appeasement that was probably absolutely necessary at the time. So much so that the media and propaganda were able to Frame it as not appeasement. But ask anyone in Eastern Europe which appeasement had the more far reaching consequences for them 1938 or 1945?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 674 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post


    Melania wasn’t playing ball. She needed to be reminded where she came from.

    It also showed Trump as a stud, banging a ‘hot chick’.

    Trump not only sanctioned the release, probably requested their release.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭macraignil


    I doubt Ukraine will accept 20% of their country being stolen and the EU and others have stated they support Ukraine and their right to protect their internationally recognised borders. Can't see why puitn needs to be rewarded for acting as a genocidal terrorist even if Trump loves him.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,807 ✭✭✭threeball


    So Piers "good friend" isn't his mate anymore. What a bitch that guy is. He can't hold a consistent opinion on anything. It's whatever benefits him now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    Ah come on, opinions can change, which is a good thing. You grow and learn. Its better than just covering your ears and screaming: LA LA LA LA LAA!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,869 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    if it’s a choice beteeen that and the rest of the country being chaotically overrun by orcs, with civilian massacre, mass rape etc., Zelenskyy may feel he has to accept trumps deal…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭pcardin


    so how far/long are we from hearing news on Trump rewriting US constitution to suit himself?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,010 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    » "Russia invaded Ukraine because Ukraine elected a leader which aligned it with Western powers and threatened their security since they share a vast border which would be impossible to defend if it became littered with American military bases."

    Putin is not trafficking Ukrainian children and stealing it's grain for "security". His entire border with Finland, which is now a NATO member, is pretty much unguarded. So this belief that it was done for security reasons is patently false.

    Putin invaded Ukraine for personal and imperial reasons.

    If the US leaves NATO and it starts to fracture in any way (it's not impossible), then anything could happen, which is why European militaries are re-arming fast. It's Putin's doctrine to split Europe, NATO and transatlantic allies. He's already on his way to achieving one of those.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭Field east


    typical action of a psychopath. Ie this is something I want to do/ take/make and f—k any collateral damage , be it at a sectoral , national or world level



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,807 ✭✭✭threeball


    And he'll change again on a whim once it suits him. He supported a genocide in Gaza until the numbers went above 50k. Then thought it was too much. I'd didn't realise there was a ratio for revenge. He's the greatest pos out there. Consistently wrong on everything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,819 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    that Glenn Greenwald is an insidious person, hysterical at times… Dan Crenshaw came off as balanced and reasonable in comparison.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,819 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    So russia doesn't like Keith Kellogg so he was removed from the negations. russia seems to be making all the decisions and america more then happy to abide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭vswr


    Morgan fell out with Trump in his first term.. so 4 or 5 years ago… Is Morgan supposed to stop working because he isn't friends with and doesn't hold all the same views as Trump?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Looks like France and the UK have come up with a new plan according to the FT. Seen as they can't get together enough troops to enter Ukraine they hope that Russia agrees for jets to patrol the skies. Totally lost the plot, they will be wanting warships in the Black sea next.

    Of course they will only do that if the US offers a security guarantee which they have already said is out of the question.

    https://archive.is/j8uAt#selection-2397.0-2397.208

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭vswr


    US don't have to actively aid Russia… all they have to do is pull back current support under the current "US first" guise. Which makes it more difficult to attribute any support of Russia (even though it's obvious it does).

    classic bait and switch gaslighting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭zv2


    Well I guess His values are greater than these things.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭vswr


    I never saw the point of a huge amount of troops if it's a peacekeeping mission. War, yes, different story.

    Ukraine already have a massive army, using foreign troops to protect key installations and be put in key overt location is far better use. Also like what the article mention, air superiority… not sure how that will work with FAB's lobbed from Russia though… deconfliction along the boarder will be interesting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,821 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    To be fair, Piers has been pretty consistent in his views with the invasion in Ukraine. This talk with trump is an extension of that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    yes…the cia,mi6,canada,mexico,denmark,greenland etc have made enquiries to Baba Yaga but unfortunatly i have to decline as my integrity and principles wont allow me to "off" a deranged,deluded,unstable,nappy-wearing,orange coloured,old dude…


    "They gave me an impossible task,one which they said I wouldnt return from...."

    "You are him…the one they call the "Baba Yaga"…

    yo! donnie vonshitzinpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭zv2


    ….

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,918 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    trump and drone delivery.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Lots of MAGA supporters are already complaining about being affected by the Musk/Trump actions. He won't care about them, he doesn't need them anymore . He's got what he wants.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    For the love of god what a ridiculous post… how can you have negotiations between two parties when you only have one at the table? You won't answer that because you never do. Here's an idea, Macron should hold peace talks with Zelensky and just omit to invite Putin. I'm sure they'd come up with excellent terms.

    Given your posting history on this thread it's no surprise you're siding with the dictator supporting, convicted sexual abuser and supporter of violent insurrection against US democracy.



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