Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

I think you would enjoy John Olivers piece

One positive out of all this is that it may bring the EU closer together and less likely to work against each other. They can see that they are facing adversaries to the east and now to the west.

I'm not sure either that the emergence of Trump and Musk is necessarily that good for the far right in Europe long term. The US administration might become so chaotic and that much of an s-show that many prospective voters might be put off (your hardcore right wing conservatives and authoritarians will be loving all this stuff of course).

Also, there is something almost slightly traitorous about those individuals who seemingly love Trump and Musk ahead of their own country and government. It might be rather off putting to those who may be considering voting for far right right parties in future. Do you really want to put a government in power whose main ambition is to be a puppet of Trump and Putin?

They may succeed. It could species jump pass to humans and cause havoc.

Imagine the uproar within the Europe if European countries demanded the same of Ukraine. European countries and business have been financially damaged from this war.

Next Trump will be looking for the US to keep the frozen assets or give them back to Russia.

Just feels like 1939 appeasement all over again.

During the 2016(?) campaign, if I recall correctly, some spokesbot for Trump went on CNBC to rail against Obama as the 'appeaser in chief.' When confronted with the question about who was the infamous politician who appeased Germany,….

he couldn't identify him. The interviewer cut the dummy off.

Oliver's piece is nothing new to anyone who's been actually paying some attention to what's been going on for the last decade with regards to US politics.

People who've been reading and watching events unfold were well aware of Bannon's political instructions to Trump and maga to flood the zone with **** a long time ago.

Look at the brazen way they bombed the sh*t out of Gaza for 16 months and then said it wasn't fair for the Palestinians to have to live there so they should go somewhere else and America was just going to "Take" it.

Trump operates with a Might Is Right mindset. In his view, if you are more powerful, you get to do what you want. He's told us all his life, shafting contractors, not paying attorneys, bullying nation states. He's an uneducated, unskilled bully. That's it.

If Russia are not made to give up anything or pay anything towards the rebuild I think it's unlikely Zelenskyy would accept such a peace deal.

I'd be interested to see how this is being covered in the Russian news. How do Putins supporters feel about him cuddling up to the US president

Trump wants peace at all costs, which is just appeasement. The US is not directly involved or even negatively impacted by this war. In fact they are benefiting financially (arms and LNG exports)

The news conference with the negotiators was an insight into their motives, they want Russia back into the economic fold. Lots of looting and plundering to be done. Guess the oligarchs on both sides favour that. We've seen it before with Europe trying to bring and welcome Russia into the club, it just doesn't work out. Well not with Putin running Russia.

Based on previous from Russian TV they appear to think Trump is with them so I dont see them being unhappy at all.

It also helps being able to claim victory knowing the minnions will lap it up no matter what……. see Mexico and Canada dealing a few weeks ago

For America in general perhaps but they always had a good relationship with The Don