Liverpool FC Premier League Champions 24/25 - Talk /Gossip/Rumours

Nobody is mocking or dismissing posts about Liverpool's form. What I posted yesterday about Liverpool players dying from fatigue was obviously a light hearted joke. Why are so many Liverpool fans so worked up? I understand a nervous excitement around games with their being so much at stake, but it's like a huge portion of their supporters spend their time looking at the doomsday clock edging closer and closer to midnight.

There is no doubt that Liverpool have not played very well over the past 2 games. They played well enough to pick up 4 points though and it could well have been 6. If Liverpool play well at Villa Park, they will win. If they play at the level of the past 2 PL games, anything could happen on the night.

Liverpool are in an incredible position though and there's no denying that. 7 points clear with just 13 PL games left. Also, as another poster pointer out above after the Villa and City games are played, Liverpool will have 7 home games and just 4 away games remaining in the PL season. If worst came to worst and Liverpool lost the next 2 games, they would still be top of the table with a really winnable remaining set of fixtures.

I don't think anyone disputes how hard it is to play 5 games in 15 days. Both physically and mentally, it is a gruel of a schedule. This Liverpool side are made of tough stuff though, hence an unbeaten PL away record so far which is really superb going. I'm not sure why there is such anxiety amongst Liverpool fans when the team are in such a position?

I mean, I've seen people be afraid of Man City catching them still this season. What is actually going on? btw, in the 2020 PL league winning season, I saw and heard some crazy things about Liverpool possibly not winning the title in the midst of the team winning 25 of their opening 26 PL games iirc (a top flight PL season I contend to be the greatest ever as no team has ever blown away every single opponent to effectively end the season with a dozen plus games to go).

All things being equal, of course Liverpool should win the title from here. As much as Arsenal have a good form line over the past few months, 7 points is a very big gap to bridge. Also in the set of fixtures before the international break the case could easily be made that Arsenal have as tough fixtures over those 4 games that both will play. Arsenal have West Ham, United,Forest and Chelsea. Nothing close to a gimme 3 points anywhere there even conceding how West Ham and United are having poor seasons. Liverpool have Villa,City, Newcastle and Southampton. Liverpool effectively have 3 points in the bag from that Southampton game.

Liverpool are well capable of matching Arsenal over this set of fixtures and maintaining a healthy lead in the title race. This is an Arsenal team that Raheem Sterling is starting in at the moment, yet people think they're certainties to win these fixtures and close in on Liverpool? Where does this level of anxiety actually come from?

This is absolutely bizarre. I recognize Villa away as a tough fixture, but they are 9th for a reason. They have been dreadfully inconsistent this season. City have been absolutely appalling for months now, it will take a lot more than a single result to convince anyone that they are a team to be feared again. Liverpool then play Newcastle and Southampton at Anfield.

In the same time frame up to the international break, Arsenal play 2 top 6 teams in Forest and Chelsea. They also play West Ham and United who are clearly having poor seasons but they are not gimmes whatsoever.

Out of both teams next 4 PL games, only one team are guaranteed any points. That is Liverpool who are absolutely certain to pick up 3 points at Anfield vs Southampton, one of the worst sides in English top flight football stretching back over 100 years.

The amount of twisting and contorting it takes to get a point where you can say that Arsenal only have 1 tough game in their next 5 is simply astonishing. Arsenal have no top quality forwards. Sterling is appalling. Their fan base is calling for Merino to be their number 9 for the next few fixtures. Imagine if Liverpool had to start Gravenberch, Chiesa and Trent Kone Doherty up front for their next few games - you'd be talking about the possibility of Liverpool being relegated. Tbh, your takes are so hilarious at this stage they just shouldn't be taken one bit seriously.

As I said on the general premier league thread, I'll be very interested to see where Liverpool and Arsenal are on St Patrick's Day. Imo, Arsenal will need to be within 3/4 points to have any realistic chance of the title at that stage. Personally I think there is little to no chance of Arsenal winning those next 4 PL fixtures. Liverpool should have a massive amount of wiggle room in their next few fixtures to stay comfortably in front at the top of the table, as they currently are.

It's funny that for all that, you don't mention Southampton in all of your analysis of the upcoming fixtures. Once again I'll state this is the only fixture Liverpool or Arsenal have in their next block of 4 fixtures that is an absolute gimme. Liverpool have 3 points in the bag here.

You also keep mentioning 5 fixtures in 15 days - you do realise Liverpool have just taken 4 points from 2 of those death defying 5 fixtures in 15 days you keep banging on about. Those 2 games have already been played and no Liverpool player has died (touch wood). In fact Liverpool are still in an incredibly strong position to win the title from here.

The only pity in all of this is that Liverpool and Arsenal aren't playing the same side in the next week - just to see your absolute twisting and contorting nonsensical analysis.

Imagine if Liverpool had West Ham this Wednesday instead of Villa. Your take on West Ham would be that they are an incredibly tough opponent for Liverpool, re-energised by their new gaffer Potter with the highest quality of forward players in Ferguson, Kudus, Bowen,Paqueta. Liverpool would do well to get any sort of results says you.

Roll on your analysis then of Arsenal vs West Ham a few days later. West Ham are God awful in 16th place, Arsenal in incredible form, absolutely unbeatable, Merino in line for ballon d'or. A walkover effectively for the unstoppable gunners.

Your football takes are some of the most bizarre I've ever encountered my life.

No, you're right. I was grasping. I'm on your wavelength now.

I finally understand what's going to happen. I'm not even sure why the PL are bothering to ask both teams to fulfill their remaining fixtures.

There's no chance of Arsenal dropping any points whatsoever. They will steamroll every dreadful side in front of them (including the rancid Liverpool at Anfield) and end the season on 92 points. Merino will probably pass Salah out for top PL goalscorer also.

For Liverpool, they have only one way of winning the title, that is to get to 93 points. Considering they are doomed to lose to incredible Villa and City sides this week, and Arsenal effectively have already won that Anfield fixtures, it will all be over this weekend mathematically.

Arsenal will be crowned PL champions on 23 February 2025. Congratulations to all gunners fans. The anxiety ridden Liverpool fans can console themselves then with the fact they don't have to contemplate the darkness of contesting for a PL title anymore.

Arsenal have 4 walkover fixtures coming up. They are playing absolute nobody's. Their positive goal difference will pile up in that period also.

Whereas Liverpool's fixtures aren't even comparable. 5 fixtures in 14 days. An impossible feat. All opponents in the form of their lives.

Liverpool will do well to be within 6 points of Arsenal at the top of the table come the international break in March.

Guess what - the odds are readily available for a lot of those Liverpool and Arsenal fixtures. The remaining fixtures are easy enough to give a rough estimate of what the odds will be. Amazingly, my head did not pop off. Still in place.

You seem to be of the ridiculous notion that Arsenal are absolutely certain to win 3 of their next 4 fixtures. Games vs West Ham (h), United (a), and Chelsea (h) are essentially walkovers going by your comments. Forest (a) is the only possible chance of dropping points but not at all likely would be the gist of your take on Arsenal's fixtures.

Your doomsday scenario for Liverpool is based on Arsenal steamrolling all before them. It's nonsensical rubbish tbh. If you actually believe they will win all 4 games easily, there's a lot of easy money to be made by your good self.

As it stands Arsenal are 2/7 vs West Ham. 8/11 vs Forest. I reckon they'll be around 4/6 vs Chelsea and 4/6 vs Man United. That works out at over 5/1 on Arsenal picking up 12 points from their next 4 PL fixtures. Or about 16 percent chance of Arsenal winning those 4 games. In case your maths is appalling (I'm guessing it is), I'll break it down for you - Arsenal are not at all likely to win all of their next 4 fixtures.

Just to give Liverpool's upcoming match odds. 4/5 vs Villa. 5/4 vs City. 1/2 vs Newcastle. I reckon they'll be 1/10 vs Southampton.

Liverpool winning all 4 matches works out at just over 11/2. Or about 14 percent chance.

So Liverpool have a 14 percent chance of winning their next 4 PL games. Arsenal have a 16 percent chance of winning their next 4 PL games.

The bookies, statisticians, every numbers guy on the planet has their next 4 games at effectively the exact same chance in terms of taking the maximum 12 points. Yet you are on here spouting utter nonsense, saying Liverpool's set of 4 upcoming fixtures are far more difficult than Arsenal's.

Are you taking the proverbial p*ss?