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Waterford Airport.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭azimuth17


    There was an airport in Kilkenny on grass at the time and KKcoCo refused to develop it. All posts about access to WAT are now redundant because of great road infrastructure around Waterford city



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    15 minutes from South Kilkenny to Waterford Airport.

    Its mad that the same people saying Dublin is close enough to the South East are also saying that an additional 15 minutes makes Waterford airport unusable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭Valhalla90


    Imagine what a region we would have if we all united and supported the region like the west does. Posters on here supporting the notion we don’t need an airport in the region are the same people who complain there’s nothing in the region from healthcare, Educational and employment sectors. Dublin & Cork see us as their backyards and that is the problem. Unite and support the region and Waterford Airport.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    Sorry lad, it is 15 minutes from the Kilkenny border therefore I cannot support such an airport.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭914


    The region could have had a stand alone University for the past 10 years but unless politicians can deliver locally they won't roll behind something.

    The only reason we saw such support behind SETU was KK and Wex were fighting for campuses.

    The same level of fight and support should be there for the airport/hospital but it's not as it's not delivering any infrastructure locally for neighbouring counties.

    We can all talk of support in the South East but fact is it only exists when people can get something out of it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭Valhalla90


    Hogan & Howlin made sure WIT would never be a stand alone university. Conquer and divide while Dublin & Cork take all. Two kings of parish pump politics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭spaceCreated


    Yeah, after 6-7 hours flight across the Atlantic who cares about another 2-3 hours of travel in a car. CEOs and upper execustives love a longer traveling distance and definitely aren't inclined to base decisions on emotions ever, they are totally infallible people who prioritise long term growth and the good of the company over personal short term gains and preferences.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭914


    Let's be clear if they are travelling transatlantic they would still be flying into Dublin even if Waterford had a runway extension.

    Unless you mean via private aircraft? Once the weather was right they could land in Waterford as is. The majority of transatlantic private flights would be something like a Gulfstream V which has often landed in Waterford and continues to do so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 525 ✭✭✭anndub


    I think you fail to understand how differently Americans view travelling by road networks to Irish people. 2 hours drive time to an American is nothing. Ireland is a really small island.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    I’d say in Kilkenny , Carlow and Wexford the airport is seen more as “nice to have” rather than something absolutely critical. Dublin is a pain in the arse yes but is fairly accessible for most including Waterford city where it’s the busiest and most trafficked bus routes, I’m sure plenty by rail too from Heuston station.
    Im all for the airport by the way and think it would be a great addition and option. Some of the major businesses in Kilkenny and Wexford and Waterford of course are behind it and the councils have to pay an annual contribution so there is support just naturally not a strong as in Waterford itself. Maybe it should have been developed in south Kilkenny alongside the rail line and now motorway but hindsight is wonderful so it may as well be developed where it is now: may not have been a suitable level site there either as these things are quite particular. There’s a lot done already at WAT it’s the extension and associated works that’s needed



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,062 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    I agree with you on the ideal "ideal" location,

    But picking a new site , getting permission and funding for a whole new airport would take forever ,have huge objections and probably cost a fortune ..so ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    yes a pointless conversation- let’s develop the airport where it is and focus on getting funding for the runway infrastructure. After that a good rail link bus would be a great addition to link plane timetable to the railway station and buses



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭spaceCreated


    I was beng tongue in cheek with the whole thing I wouldn't read too much in to it.

    But an airport with links to other international airports like London being close by would definitely be used in whatever metrics are used to evaluate locations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭spaceCreated


    Do you think I'm the only Irish person on the island who has managed to not talk to an American?

    I think you fail to understand how differently anyone in the upper management of a company thinks who has every half hour of their week measured and organised for them. 6-8 hour flight + being driven in a car for 2 hours on a good day is not going to be their cup of tea and would definitely be seen as more than a slight inconvenience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭spaceCreated


    All it would take for Kilkenny and Carlow to start looking more serious at airport and regional development would be the loss of a couple of places like State Street… already happened in Wexford with BNY and I guess maybe some of the people there might be waking up to horrible reality of the lack of international IDA backed jobs that many in Waterford have been pointing out for years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,489 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    A washing machine wouldn't go around and around as many times as this conversation has.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 525 ✭✭✭anndub


    We could go around olin circles all day so I'll bow out here. Best of luck with Waterford international Airport. It'll be great day for the parish when that first flight straight from JFK lands.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭ArtVandelay76




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭spaceCreated


    Did you not already reply to my comment the other day… were you trying to think of a "really good comeback that'll show him" since, embarrassing 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭spaceCreated


    Tbf the person being blamed for not having an airport for the last 2 years was Eamonn Ryan, with every other party happy to lay the blame at his feet. So now that the Greens are no longer in Government shouldn't we be seeing some movement. So thats a good bit of change.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,038 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    …ah shur perfect scapegoat, anything to take the blame off ffg!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭Muttley79


    Unfortunately geographically Waterford city is in a tough place as our south east regional Leinster neighbours feel closer to Dublin than Waterford.

    Dungarvan/clonmel roughly 1 hour drive to Cork airport and Waterford airport.

    Kilkenny city/wexford town an extra 20 minutes drive and they have Dublin airport on their step.

    The government would probably rather build a Dublin south airport in around New bridge Kildare as it's linking cork/limerick/Waterford by both motorway and train line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭914


    Everyone has stated how close Waterford is to Dublin, no reason then that Waterford can't be sold as a Dublin south airport if that's the case.

    Take London South End airport it's about 1hr and 10 min drive into London and yet it's sold as a London airport.

    Depending on the M9/N8 and M50 leaving New bridge at times could take you similar time to get to Waterford than Dublin airport so it swings both ways.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    That is true and probably one that Dublin doesn’t like. All the other regional airports are far enough away. Some kind of strategic alliance with DUB would be good but they’re probably not interested but I’ve seen that in the U.K./England there are airport groups that operate the airports in certain parts of the country



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Mr Q


    Wexford town is not only 20 minutes extra, closer to an hour.

    Waterford airport is about 66km and Dublin airport is about 160km from Wexford town.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,468 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Southend is predominantly focused on UK outbound traffic, with nearly all of it's destinations sun resorts for UK travellers.

    It also has a rail link to central London offering journey times of less than 1hr.

    However, Southend's model might make a more interesting business case for WAT than the inbound argument (albeit the regional benefits wouldn't be as great).

    Target low-fare operators and package operators servicing sun and ski destinations, making a heavy play for the price-sensitive budget holidaymakers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭dan575283578


    I wonder how much longer we will be waiting on this. Be great if work started at some point in 2025



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,038 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    dont be surprised if we re still waiting heading into the next ge!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Given that the place hasn't had a commercial flight for nearly a decade I got a good laugh out of that one. I'd say Kilkenny County Council are devastated that they don't have an airport with no flights alright!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    There is no requirement for a second airport to serve Dublin (and certainly not located in Waterford!). There is plenty of scope to expand the current airport as required, the cap will be lifted as it's national essential infrastructure serving an island and the airport will continue to develop from there.

    Anyway MOL killed the Waterford expansion stone dead a few weeks ago. The only show in town now is Aer Lingus Regional, or another regional operator who can use the existing infrastructure if there's even demand for 70 seater aircraft, which to date there doesn't even seem to be.



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