Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Read OP for mod warnings before posting*

yeah the previous one i had seen had the numbers in and out as the same. as i said, people aren't going to canada or australia for house purchasing opportunities, the markets there are possibly even more f**ked up than ireland, and we will always have young people leave ireland due to the vast amount of opportunities abroad and us being a small island nation.

because the last figures i had seen had the numbers in and out as the same, did you not read my last post?

housing market in australia is f**ked too, and when i lived there the other young irish/UK/euro people i knew there were usually sharing 2 or 3 to a room and working menial jobs to save to go backpacking somewhere.

even if housing was affordable in ireland we'd still have waves of people going to australia because it's just a really nice country in many ways.

”Amoral Sociopath” 😂

The U.S. has a moral obligation to its own citizens and no one else. These countries should sort out their own ****. If I was a U.S. taxpayer I’d be very happy at the implementation of these new programs.

With that in mind a number of charities have been accused by people in the developing world of hampering progress and creating situations where the people they set out to help end up relying on the hand outs they receive and have no motivation to make something of themselves thus hamstringing developing nations and stopping them becoming prosperous.

Nobody has been brainwashed to hate NGO's, a statement like that would require some qualifying evidence and I'm not sure any is available beyond people asking questions about why a country like Ireland has so many NGO's and why they receive such handsome pay outs from the Irish taxpayer. Those questions are reasonable to ask particularly in a country where charities have repeatedly been shown to be little more than quangoes and in some cases personal slush funds for unscrupulous people.

The one continuous issue that puts the notion of allowing bogus asylum claimants to remain in this country (genuine asylum seekers and refugees are a separate smaller group) is the ongoing housing crisis that is showing no sign of be solved anytime in the next few decades.

We need to get a handle on how we deal with this situation before we end up mired in an ever worsening situation.

Saying that isn't unreasonable or based in fascist ideology it's simple common sense and it's high time we stopped accepting it being described in a negative light because that is doing nothing to address the situation.

Citizens or tax payers . Which ?

Let's see what Trump does with the money he saves by abandoning all the projects worldwide that have been set up with American funding .

Will that money really go towards helping American citizens living in poverty ? Or will it be pumped into various pet projects of Elon and his other billionaire friends , that will see help or benefit to the more vulnerable areas of America ignored?

As To USAID ..

So many have waxed lyrical on how these countries need to support themselves and their citizens .

Is that after the US and other countries have milked their oil /diamonds/ ore or would those riches be pumped back in to improve their support systems so they can function for the benefit of their own citizens?

Will the US pull their CIA agents who continue to stir and create political warmongering along with agents of other superpowers ,Russians and Chinese for example , ensuring that any warring factions support their economic needs?

I reckon it's pull the money out but continue the grab.

It is the voice and work of more than one Amoral Sociopath but he is the loudest voice at the moment .

There was an awful lot of money being wasted by USAID as well tbf.

Still curious as to where the 70k went in Ireland for that musical that was mentioned.

Surely the UN etc should be looking at making these countries more sustainable so they don't rely on the goodwill of other countries permanently, like introduce better crop and water management, education, contraceptive programmes etc all the money that has been spent on these international bodies and they appear to do absolutely nothing constructive to fix the issues afflicting countries that need continual aid.

funding them hasn't keep economic migrants at home either.Surely a fair quid pro quo would be keep the funding but no immigrants from any countries that get the funding but that isn't done either.I'd also argue that emigration from poorer countries create gigantic brain drain which further stifles their opportunity to progress (Ireland was a good example of this in the past)

The emotive nonsense you've been peddling is a large part of the issue as anyone who suggests changing this approach is immediately demonized and out of guilt people just carry on sending money into a blackhole rather than trying to get to the root of a lot of the problems and fix them permanently.

Cutting funding isn't going to cause anyone to die in the short term or even close to it, it's just being pushed because charities are a massive international business and they don't ant to lose out on the money they receive.However knowing that the gravy train is ending might get organisations to act more sustainably and cause them to come up with permanent solutions to the problems these charities are just keeping putting a sticking plaster on rather than fixing.

So have they have no backup funding?

Is there no co-operation amongst agencies where they can share resources during the lack of cashflow?Imagine if a company was organised on the basis that one week without sales meant they went out of business , that would be downright stupid way to operate.

Where will these deaths be most likely to occur?