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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,976 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,032 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Twitter? The plaything of Trumps loose cannon in this administration? That Twitter?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,210 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Well they expelled some of their own members last year.

    That's proof enough for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,517 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    yes. That Twitter. The one Harris and foreign affairs department officially announced their oh so caring and generous taxpayers donation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,008 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    It's amazing how so many know what, how much and where USAID use money on and a few days ago no one would have even known it existed



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,400 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    You would swear it was created under Biden.

    His MAGA crowd also think the money saved will be filtering back into their pockets, little do they know Trumps next tax cut (which favours the rich) will be paid, not by increased borrowing, but massive cuts to Medicare, Medicaid etc…. as it doesn't affect rich people. But all the distraction is focused on plastic straws and government officials paying Politico for a subscription service etc….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,650 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Also some hostages have recounted being held in unrwa premises



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,117 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Trump is about to inflict tariffs on the whole of the EU but only two countries are responsible for the trade surplus of the EU. One is Germany as you'd expect - a manufacturing powerhouse….the other is Ireland which manufactures and exports pharma to the US. This makes up the bulk of our tax take in this country.

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    We are going to get a lot more isolated from our European peers. They are going to be very angry that they will also pay for this.

    I guess we can Palestine the whole thing and further damage ourselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,937 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    You have to be joking.

    Remind me, who had irelands interests to heart during Brexit, oh that’s right the EU. We are integrated to the EU quite well, so you’re factually incorrect on that one.

    They are going to be angry? Do you think they are our parents or something?

    The submissive self pity off this post is so bloody weird.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,886 ✭✭✭wandererz


    Why is the White House focusing on South Africa of all countries?

    And without a proper understanding of the changes to the laws.

    Could it be because of the (now) American external influencer who grew up in Apartheid South Africa??

    Screenshot_20250209_035337_LinkedIn.jpg

    At the same time, because of the shutdown of USAid, anti-retroviral clinics in SA that where sponsored and/or funded by USAid have been shutdown overnight, leaving thousands of people worried about how, when and where they can obtain their next treatment.

    https://news.sky.com/story/usaid-crisis-leaves-south-africans-living-with-hiv-in-turmoil-13304449

    I don't know how well reviewed or reputable the New Yorker publication is, but it/they seem to put together a pretty damning case against the grandfather.

    From experience, for the most part family values continue across generations, especially when brought up in the same/similar environment. In this case being brought up in a privileged environment during Apartheid South Africa.

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-world-according-to-elon-musks-grandfather



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,117 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    The EU is NOTHING compared to US investment here. The US investment in this country allows you to be a gobshite. Really.

    Let's have figures to compare.

    Idiot.

    Mod Edit: Warning issued for uncivil posting

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,327 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    If they treated white South Africans with the respect they deserved they might continue to get handouts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Aren't you someone who said the EU would screw us over to get a better brexit deal from the UK?

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,976 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Two reasons

    1. They are racists
    2. They are punishing the country for going against the real power bloc in the US


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,053 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Well folks, how did ye spend your Saturday night?

    Me? Well myself and my extended family are celebrating Trumps executive order signed by Trump which states that all paper straws should be banned.

    I mean... It doesn't really affect us, but we really do get annoyed when we see someone we don't know on television use a paper one instead of a plastic one. It's infuriating.

    Far more maddening than seeing infrastructure crumble, health care denied and education being decimated.

    Thank you Trump.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    I know the price of eggs wouldn’t really affect you if you can afford to be there, but I hope trump gets some blowback at the god awful spectacle that is the Super Bowl.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,875 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Would you damn the Irish Governments which enabled the US Multi-nationals and Investors who provided the start-up capital for their business's here? Would you damn the same companies and investors who moved their production lines here giving so many Irish people employment here as a means of increasing their profits margins? Trump, in case you haven't noticed, has a profitable business here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    The only way Trump will make this work if he goes after individual countries or individual products like Pharma and hits them hard. A measly 10% will have next to no impact on Ireland and what he is trying to achieve. No doubt they will all know it's temporary anyway so ride it out so he needs to say they are long term unless they bring profits home. There is zero chance of that happening so yeah not sure I'd be concerned yet. Changing tax laws is where he needs to focus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,650 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Why is the super bowl a 'god awful spectacle' exactly ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,725 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Trump, in case you haven't noticed, has a profitable business here.

    Well, he has a business here. It would be bucking the trend if it were a profitable business.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,725 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I would describe watching interminable huddles of discussion, robots doing a bit of chucking a ball around and more huddles of discussion, the audience eats superbowl food and there are 16 lots of ads per game, the game stops for the ads, and the cheer leaders and mascots do their thing on the sidelines - as a 'god awful spectacle'. But I don't have to watch it and the people who do get to watch it seem to enjoy it, so what harm?

    I am sure there is an analogy there somewhere though. 'It is American to enjoy and support American football so therefore I enjoy and support it (even though I am mostly getting together with a bunch of friends to eat, and admire the cheerleaders)' is much the same as 'It is American to support Donald Trump so I support him. Regardless'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,650 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Not really. Its the super bowl, a football game, people watch the game and eat food. That's pretty much it. I don't know what people on here think america is like, but constant fights over politics or asking who you voted for to start a debate or lecture isn't it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    3and a half hours and only 10 minutes of actual action. Tay Tay will get more screen time than actual football been played.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,976 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Constant interruption to the actual game to have advertisements and you ask why the Superbowl gets a bit of bad press. It is certainly not a sporting spectacle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,814 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    It is tricky to get exact figures for 'Random EU Country' to USA trade surplus/deficit.
    But your central point that only Germany & Ireland have a trade surplus seems to be wrong.

    (I googled 'US XXX trade deficit' replacing XXX with EU countries and the OEC link was generally first or second result)

    Examples -
    Italy 2022 $68B exported to USA. $26B exported to Italy. Italy (ITA) and United States (USA) Trade | The Observatory of Economic Complexity
    Denmark 2022 $13B to USA. $4.6B to Denmark. United States (USA) and Denmark (DNK) Trade | The Observatory of Economic Complexity
    Similar figures for Austria. France was closer £41B to $50B but still favouring France. Belgium basically a draw $29B to $30B. Spain an example of a large economy that imports marginally more than they export.

    If we are in the same boat with Germany, Austria, Denmark and Italy then I don't think excessive anger is going to be directed at Ireland. For the many Eastern EU countries who do little or no trade with USA, tariffs are going to be a complete non-issue anyway.

    Edit : I forget to check Netherlands. They are a standout differential, $33B exported to USA, $68B imported from USA. Including them now for balance. Netherlands (NLD) and United States (USA) Trade | The Observatory of Economic Complexity



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    No excessive anger was ever going to be directed at Ireland anyway. Kermit has been predicting Ireland would become isolated from Europe non-stop for the last 9 years and is consistently wrong. This is just the latest iteration of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,814 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Oh indeed, I well remember his repeated 'de facto out of the SM/CU within 6 months' predictions.
    I was trying not to rethread that old ground though, and just examining whether there was any truth in his latest claim that the surplus was caused by just IRL & GER. Unless there has been a dramatic change in Q3/Q4 2024 figures it seems he was incorrect, which I guess won't surprise posters/readers from previous threads.

    ******

    The solution from the USA pov has always been staggeringly simple as other contributors have alluded to. Get Detroit factories building fuel-efficient cars that are small enough to suit our one-lane city streets, tiny roads and the miniscule parking-spaces below our apartment blocks. Get your farmers growing food of a quality/safety that Europeans want.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,327 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    IMO it is just a personal desire and belief that Ireland should leave the EU getting the better of logical thought here.

    Plainly politics here is not going in a direction where we would exit ourselves, so he'd have to hope somehow the other members will decide to become quite hostile towards us over a disagreement, and drive us away. First the great hope was over Brexit (did not pan out), now this issue (potential actions of Trump admin. 2)!

    Given Hungary is still in the EU with all activities the govt. there has gotten up contrary to interests and even stability/security/safety at times of the other members over last decade, it seems unlikely.

    It's pretty obvious that the EU response (and any anger) will be directed at Trump and the US if they initiate a brain dead trade war (apart from 1-2 members that have governments that will want to kiss up to Trump - main e.g. Hungary [again]).

    Why would the EU & other members doing less trade with the US be angry with those members (ourselves, Germany, maybe Denmark too?) that will be hit harder by tariffs, due to just doing a lot of trade with the US or the targetting of specific sectors by Trump? It just doesn't make any sense. We didn't vote for Trump or ask for any of this idiocy, noone in the EU did.

    Post edited by fly_agaric on


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,365 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mod: Kermit is currently on a short holiday from the forum so no need to quote him for a few days. Thanks



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Nermal




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