Dangerous Dogs Owners

Did anyone see the video from newstalk with a women from my lovely horse rescue saying "we are seeing racism against the bull breed in general"

Jesus christ, what a statement

I guess not the XL Bully because you are still in this world!

I think you are probably genuinely misreading, I believe anyway. Usually it is, it's not a dog, it's the owner.. Different dog breeds have different needs, to put it simply. You can't expect to have a Collie snoring by your side whole day and night, for example. And to repeat again aggression is not inherited trait to any dog breed. Unless there are serious genetic, or medical problems.

In the US they have lax gun laws. The theory is it is the owner not the gun. And every time there is a school or massshooting the answr is it's the owner...…but if there was a good guy with a gun….well it's like the Gardai there cannot be one at every corner.

In Health&Safety you control the danger, however ifvyou cannot always control the immediate danger you put controls in place

If you cannot control the owner you shoot the f@@king the dog.

The person you quoted genuinely thought they were doing something too.

Literally this

The people with some grasp on statistics 

If that's the case you might post some statistics?

well, in UK between 2021-2023 half all fatalities were due to XL bully

Whatever way they go, eliminating these clearly very dangerous dogs from society is welcoming.

Can’t eliminate owners, but we can eliminate the actual weapons. Even the look of them screams killer!

yes, these monster dogs are weapons.

Nasty results of a 2 dogs attacking a woman. One was a GS and the other a PittBull. Was pet sitting and the day she was heading over the dogs were supposed to be in crates but the owners texted her and said they were loose in the house. As soon as she was in they attacked. Took 37 Minutes for the first responders to get into the house.

"The owners, who have three children – including a three-year-old – claimed the dogs were never violent, telling investigators that they had ‘zero’ problems with them. 

However, they reportedly had a sign on their home claiming to have ‘crazy dogs’ and to not ‘ring the doorbell’. 

The front door sign read: ‘Crazy Dogs. Please Don’t Knock or Ring the Bell. Call or Text Instead.’

‘The warning on the door suggests that the Bishops knew that both of these dogs have acted aggressively to people arriving at the front door,’ Durand’s lawyer Chip Brooker told CBS Mornings. 

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As ridiculous as this thread can get..

Dogs are not a weapons, they are as good as we take care of them, training, socialising, vet visits, proper feeding, responsible breeding etc....

And I think shocking amount of dog owners don't do that. Dogs are disposable things for a lot of people. Dogs are mistreated, left in pain, not cared for properly and the list goes on. And there goes troubles.

Interesting is that a lot of deadly attacks are down to dogs attacking their owners, or family members.. Any thought on that?

And then there's minister Heather Humphreys talking about "locking jaws" in certain breeds, which is total nonsense, none of the dog breeds has that special jaw. But there's a lot of nonsense regards dogs circulating and being repeated over and over again, till the people actually buy it.

It's incredibly sad if you ask me. It takes a lot of effort by some humans to turn some dogs aggressive. And that should stop! But ban of some breed is not a solution.

A significant proportion of people who have "restricted" dogs have them for weapons, either offensive or defensive.

That's some statement, do you have anything to back it up with?

Also what dogs do you mean by "restricted" dogs ?

Edit: Just saying, there's at least 50 breeds (ball park figure, excuse me for that), if misused etc., with potential to have you in bits, before you know. Should we ban them all? Or should peeps finally take responsibility for their dog's companion?

I think I've posted this article before, but not so sure, so I'll post it. It perfectly sums up my own view of things, when it comes to our best friends.

I have at the moment three dogs, which I love to bits. I don't breed. Two of them are on the restricted breed list, thanks to their mother, she was excellent mum for them. Watching her putting the manners on pups was a priceless experience for me, it was done in the most friendly environment. Mother had plenty of space, so did pups. Big garden, huge kennel, great owners. Both of her pups are thriving with us, great intelligent dogs, part of our daily routines, part of the family. The two young ones got the best start to their life.

Why I'm saying that. Anyone with 10, 20 breeding bitches is providing that level of care for them and their pups? My hole they do. Yet they are allowed to go on, allowed to sell pups, allowed to do it without proper health checks. And people are allowed to buy dogs from those places. It's fooking mad. Thank fook dogs are so resilient creatures, so they can withstand most of the "surprises" humans have for them.

Anyway ban of one breed will surely sort it..

Apologies to a poster I called delusional. That was unfair and bad wording on my side. I was growing around the dogs, all extended family had various dog breeds, my better halfs family was same. So I've met a lot of big breeds, some of those are considered dangerous by some, yet I didn't experience any aggression on dog's side, nor people they've met. They always provided us with unlimited loyalty, joy and happiness. So I'm a bit emotional when it comes to dogs. And when someone calls them weapons, monsters, shoot on sight etc. That certainly trigger sharp response on my side.

Again, what would be a definition of dangerous dog?

For the sake of an argument, any dog of 20kg and over will (or have possibility ) to have an adult on the ground in no time.

Any small breed have possibility to attack, bite, or kill kids.

If you happen to be say two year old, you have no chance against Chihuahua, or Lab, or XL bully. Wouldn't matter the size of the dog.

Maybe we should ban all dogs..

Or maybe we should go different, more complicated way, rewarding people and dogs at the same time.

Long term solution, instead of this proposed mess.

Again bans didn't solve problems around dog attacks.