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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,022 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Is there anyone who would look at Trump's conduct and the conduct of his enablers after the 2020 US elections and believe he has any interest in open democracy? Very few objective people, if any.

    I can say it until I'm blue in the face, but the last time Trump was in office, he has just enough relatively sane and principal around him and in various positions of influence around the country that his plot to overturn the 2020 election did not succeed. This time around, it would appear that the belief that the 2020 election was rigged is an official policy of his administration, if I heard it correctly both Karoline Leavitt and JD Vance repeating the Big Lie. What reason has anyone to trust that group of people, this stack of loyalists, that they're not going to do everything they can to tighten their grip on power on the basis of 'election security'? Who's going to stop them? The DoJ? Trump and team are purging that as we speak.

    Lastly, MAGA is the mainstream Republican party. If all these other moderate Republicans exist, they mostly voted for Trump as well. Remember when it was speculated that all these 'mainstream Republicans' would come out of I-don't-know-where and vote for Nikki Haley? Ha!

    And what Republican leaders think in private is of no use. They think it in private because they're too scared to go public. Trump's control is total.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,051 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Scotus has granted him immunity. So there is no law that can stop him doing anything.

    The voter's have shown they don't care what he does. The GOP certainly don't.

    Its pretty simple. Don't bother with midterms, under the guise of some national emergency.

    With the defunding of the FBI and CIA (where are all those crying about Dems defunding the police?) the risk of a terrorist attack has increaed and as GWB should you can masssively override peoples rights under the excuse of fighting a war/terror.

    Continue to stack all federal agencies with loyalists such that voter supression can go into overdrive.

    Continue to place loyal judges in key roles to an least massively delay, and ultimately derail, any possible legal chalkenges (Judge Cannon already dud this).

    It might not end up being Trump, his age might get him, but make no mistake that MAGA is in charge and nothing is off the table



  • Administrators Posts: 55,042 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Afghanistan, Albania, Andorra, Antigua and Barbuda, Austria, Bangladesh, Belgium, Belize, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brazil, Bulgaria, Cabo Verde, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Comoros, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cyprus, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Estonia, Finland, France, Gabon, Gambia, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Grenada, Guatemala, Honduras, Iceland, Ireland, Jordan, Latvia, Lesotho, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Maldives, Malta, Mexico, Mongolia, Montenegro, Namibia, Netherlands, Nigeria, North Macedonia, Norway, Panama, Peru, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Moldova, Romania, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, San Marino, Senegal, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, State of Palestine, Sweden, Switzerland, Timor-Leste, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Uganda, United Kingdom, Uruguay, Vanuatu.

    UK included, Germany and France in there, Canada and Mexico.

    Australia a notable absentee.

    It's fairly bad when even the Taliban are having a go at you to maintain the integrity of the ICC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,032 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    They were the Trojans horse, we'll get the Irish to believe they're saving Turtles, if they believe that they'll believe anything and by did we. RTE'e darling Samantha Power has a lot to answer for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,399 ✭✭✭Wolf359f




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    So what you are saying is we should break our word and lie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,629 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    The good news is the culture war is nearly over, another war Trump will end. We are going to have to find something else to be obsessed about soon, while ye continue to to be obsessed about Donald Trump for another 4 years after the 8 you've already put in.

    Oh by the way, did you see JK Rowling's tweet today? It was a good one.

    https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1887472120541679690

    This 'why do you care about a tiny fraction of the population?' line is, and always was, utterly ridiculous. Gender ideology has undermined freedom of speech, scientific truth, gay rights, and women's and girls' safety, privacy and dignity. It's also caused irreparable physical damage to vulnerable kids. Nobody voted for it, the vast majority of people disagree with it, yet it has been imposed, top down, by politicians, healthcare bodies, academia, sections of the media, celebrities and even the police. Its activists have threatened and enacted violence on those who've dared oppose it. People have been defamed and discriminated against for questioning it. Jobs have been lost and lives have been ruined, all for the crime of knowing that sex is real and matters. When the smoke clears, it will be only too evident that this was never about a so-called vulnerable minority, notwithstanding the fact that some very vulnerable people have been harmed. The power dynamics underpinning our society have been reinforced, not dismantled. The loudest voices throughout this entire fiasco have been people insulated from consequences by their wealth and/or status. They aren't likely to find themselves locked in a prison cell with a 6'4" rapist who's decided his name's now Dolores. They don't need state-funded rape crisis centres, nor do they ever frequent high street changing rooms. They simper from talk show sofas about those nasty far-right bigots who don't want penises swinging around the girls' showers, secure in the knowledge that their private pool remains the safe place it always was.Those who've benefited most from gender identity ideology are men, both trans-identified and not. Some have been rewarded for having a cross-dressing kink by access to all spaces previously reserved for women. Others have parlayed their delicious new victim status into an excuse to threaten, assault and harass women. Non-trans-identified leftybros have found a magnificent platform from which to display their own impeccably progressive credentials, by jeering and sneering at the needs of women and girls, all while patting themselves on the back for giving away rights that aren't theirs.The actual victims in this mess have been women and children, especially the most vulnerable, gay people who've resisted the movement and paid a horrible price, and regular people working in environments where one misplaced pronoun could see you vilified or constructively dismissed. Do not tell me this is about a tiny minority. This movement has impacted society in disastrous ways, and if you had any sense, you'd be quietly deleting every trace of activist mantras, ad hominem attacks, false equivalence and circular arguments from your X feeds, because the day is fast approaching when you'll want to pretend you always saw through the craziness and never believed it for a second.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,452 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Its more than Canada and Mexico conceded to get him to **** off.

    But the jokes on him really. The vast majority of American cars imported into Europe are from the likes of Volvo, BMW, Mercedes and Toyota, who build their bigger SUVs and trucks in the US.

    Its not as if people in Europe are going to stop buying Škodas or Kias and start picking up crap Chevys and Chryslers all of a sudden.

    We don't NOT buy American brand cars because they are too expensive, we avoid them because they are terrible.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,280 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Canada taking it most seriously. Not surprisingly

    a microphone that was left on picked up on what was only meant to be heard behind closed doors. "Mr. Trump has it in mind that the easiest way to do it is absorbing our country and it is a real thing. In my conversations with him on…," Trudeau said, before the microphone cut out. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    Afghanistan, Albania, Andorra, Antigua and Barbuda, Austria, Bangladesh, Belgium, Belize, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brazil, Bulgaria, Cabo Verde, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Comoros, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cyprus, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Estonia, Finland, France, Gabon, Gambia, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Grenada, Guatemala, Honduras, Iceland, Ireland, Jordan, Latvia, Lesotho, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Maldives, Malta, Mexico, Mongolia, Montenegro, Namibia, Netherlands, Nigeria, North Macedonia, Norway, Panama, Peru, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Moldova, Romania, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, San Marino, Senegal, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, State of Palestine, Sweden, Switzerland, Timor-Leste, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Uganda, United Kingdom, Uruguay, Vanuatu.

    This brings up something a friend mentioned to me recently.

    Netanyahoo, who is wanted for the worst possible crime, recently travelled by air to the US, and to do so he must have travelled through somebody's airspace to exit the Mediterranean. It's possible but very unlikely that his plane used Moroccan airspace, which means that almost certainly one or more of the countries on that list permitted his plane to use their airspace. Looking at a map, it seems to me that the most likely candidates are a combination of some of these states: Greece, France, Spain, Portugal. Italy isn't on the list for obvious reasons, but their airspace would have been used too

    If so we're talking rank hypocrisy here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,334 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Consumers thankfully will have the final say - I know people who won’t buy Tesla on principle - other brands because they’re just plain cheap and nasty, in every way but price



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭yagan


    When the election result came in I knew it the final nail in the coffin of the US led post WWII western consensus.

    Both Putin and Trump have done more for European unity than any European visionary could.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭reclose


    Has Trump done anything you disagree with in his second term?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,112 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Quick reminder that Trump had this lunatic in the White House on at least one occasion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,239 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Most people would go out of their way to avoid seeing anything that hateful cünt posts.

    "The loudest voices throughout this entire fiasco have been people insulated from consequences by their wealth and/or status."

    Laughable...I see she still has zero self awareness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Nermal


    There is nothing hateful in commanding the state not to participate in the pretence that someone can change their sex.

    People are free to continue it themselves if they like, they are just now restrained from forcing others to do so.

    It's profoundly sad that such a command needs to be issued.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,334 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Ironically Europe is becoming a tad disjointed in recent times - some very strong right wing parties , a lot of rethinking on immigration and what’s tolerated around qualification for citizenship - some countries are starting to mimic the US- it’s not all roses over here even if vast majority might be against the Gaza proposed solution



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭yagan


    Absenting Fico and Orban, most eastern European right wing movements want better European security because they don't trust Trump in regards to Putin.

    They were united to declaring that on one would be deciding peace terms with Russia without Ukraine's consent in response to Trump's constant promise to "sort it out".

    And what's worse is Trump is only a symptom of a greater detachment the USA is undergoing with the MAGA mandate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,399 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I think 80% of the €5.5bil vehicles the EU buys from the US are BMW. Far as I can tell, they are the X series SUVs assembled in the US (with a German engine).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,045 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Juran


    That's great for mainland EU. But Ireland will hammer US made cars with our old VRT 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,042 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I think the fascination with other people's genitalia is weird...

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,659 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    We had this a century ago. The USA pass the Neutrality Acts to keep out of foreign wars. Fascism tore Europe apart and pulled the USA in regardless of what FDR wanted.

    This time the shoe's on the other foot. Fascism is on the rise in the USA this time while most of Europe has either stabilised (UK, Italy), remains politically immobile (Germany), carries on with business as usual (most countries), or is just France being France.

    I don't think we need to worry about the USA invading mainland Europe but it will be very, very interesting to see how the US Army responds if offensives are declared.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I cant help but wonder if Musk had anything to do with Trump signing the EO in relation to transgender people being denied recognition by Trumps Admin, seeing as how he has a transgender daughter who has walked away from him over the transgender issue, with him blaming "transgenderism" for her choice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    She's a truly great woman who speaks for millions of women & girls. Hopefully (as AllForlt says) we're now seeing the beginning of the end of the culture wars, which have been driven from the top down. Ideological beliefs imposed on everybody, like a new religion (that everybody had to buy into & believe) but now being pushed back thanks to powerful people like JK & DJT.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭yagan


    If it's a repeat of the first term then it's all bluster, but I would be concerned about what happens if he kicked the bucket in the morning, who comes after Hindenburg?

    The difference with a century ago is that Europe was a quarter of the global population and divided by imperial rivalries. Young people in Germany didn't see why they couldn't have an empire like Britain for example.

    Today's insecurity in the US is very different. They think they hold up the global economy yet if Apple tried to produce Iphones in the US they'd become very unaffordable very fast, but many people in the US actually think iphones are made in the US.

    Even Trump's 10% tariff on Chinese imports will be an added cost to iphones, which make up 60% of all devices in the US.

    Neither Trump or his supporters seem to realise that import tariffs only isolates the US economy more rather than making it great.

    If costs get another bump up because of tariffs then it only turns the heat up domestically.

    Edit to add there's been a few discussions on reddit about Irish people on bigger wages in the USA but also the proportionally more expensive grocery shopping. I have US relatives how visit and can't believe how cheap good groceries are here so if with 40% of crop workers being illegal I can see no other outcome that already expensive food becoming a crux issue.

    A hungry society is not a happy society.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    There's an arrest warrant out for him. That's wanted to me.



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