Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Read OP for mod warnings before posting*

Aren't most immigrants from India now? Pretty much every shop in Dublin seems to have Indian staff these days. I don't really understand how their visas work. Can you get work permits in Ireland if you're from a non-EU country for menial jobs like working in a Spar or service station?

I realise it must be almost impossible to get Irish staff to do these jobs these days and Ireland isn't a draw to the likes of Poland etc. any more if you're going to be getting minimum wage, and Indians would work their arses off in these jobs as I would imagine anything here is better than living in India.

“as I would imagine anything here is better than living in India.” What do you mean?

A shithole country… I remember some other guy saying that.

If I lived in a shithole, I'd want to leave. I would do so legally. I would assimilate into my host country's traditions and customs. I would assume that my shithole country's traditions wouldn't be normal or accepted and I would work as hard as I can to prove myself as a benefit to the country that accepted me and took me away from that shithole.

I can safely say, that is not what is happening

Sincere apologies, I can see you were only specifically referring to India whereas I was taking a more general approach to immigration.

Didn't mean to misrepresent your position and certainly don't want people to think I was singling out India.

to be fair, i also know people that loved it there, my partner (a woman!) worked there as a medic some time and would love to go back but i refuse. i know others who have visited on holidays and loved it too. the cities are just overwhelming for me, it's like being on a different planet. they're generally lovely people though.

so why do irish people leave ireland when the going gets tough? culture and attitudes of our country or a variety of other reasons? people leave if there is a better life available elsewhere, it was ever thus for humanity, only recently did we start making it bureaucratic with laws etc.

I wouldn't slate anyone for leaving when the going gets tough. If you feel you need to move to a country, make a real go of things and appreciate the generosity of the country allowing you to better your life, and you do it legally, by the books, not rely on the host country for handouts and benefits, that's great for you.

Parts of dublin have become no more than shanty towns for immigrants.

That is not acceptable.

We do not need to "do more"

We need to accept less.

Legal migrants absolutely. I think I may have missed a page on this thread and we are agreeing more than disagreeing so sorry for that again.

I blame the governments and the white knighting idiots who deem it acceptable, not the people exploiting our stupid systems.

The shanty towns are along the canals, Mount St, Moore st is a mess and other various places where it is obvious that it is majority immigrants with substandard quality of hygiene and sanitation.

I do agree whith a certain amount of hyperbole as it is not as bad as actual shanty towns in third world countries but nonetheless, we should not accept that kind of degredation on the streets of ireland because of poor immigration/asylum policy.

Potential being the keyword, me being an optimist

What you pointing at are few of the reasons to currently fall into the shithole column, we are no that far in time removed from some fairly terrible carryon ourselves, things can change, but China is shackled by an ideology allergic to social change, they moved in right direction for short time only for XI to come along

I was in China and not for the first time this year, you haven't a clue mate.

You just can't make statements about 1.4 billion people like you are trying to do and have it mean anything beyond lame old racial stereotypes.

Surely we are aiming for the discussion here to be better than that.

Where did the money go? According to USAID $70K went to Ceiliuradh Company Limited By Guarantee yet it is not listed in their year-end Financial Reports for 2022 or 2023.

Yes, I suppose then you would continue to whinge about housing being an issue .

What a completely nonsensical comment .

2023 was a bad year for tourism.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/why-ireland-is-struggling-to-attract-tourists/

In March 2023, 34 per cent of the registered tourism bed stock was being used as emergency accommodation for refugees and asylum seekers. While this figure has now decreased to 10 per cent, there are knock-on effects from that period, with associated businesses like tourism attractions and cafés closing down. 

A small increase on a bad year does not make 2024 a good year. That's very basic math. Not sure how else to explain it to you.

What an absolute daft article.

Anyway. Even that doesn't agree with you.

While 2024 was relatively flat compared to 2023, in fact this was significantly ahead of pre-covid bookings in terms of numbers,” says Robert Kidd, founder of McKinlay Kidd, who specialise in holidays to Ireland. Its bookings for Ireland holidays are about 75 per cent up for 2024 compared to 2019, with their customers largely coming from England and North America. 2025 is looking buoyant, too.

I had a lengthy hospital stay this year, Indian and African nurses are so nice. Indians are very caring and Africans are great craic. We need more Irish though they run a tight ship.

Nurses are qualified people though,the carer industry is a race to the bottom, those are the guys that get intimate and need to be trustworthy