Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

I doubt very much the 800 or so children who didn't even reach their first birthday were recruited. Do you? Or perhaps the neonates left to decompose in their incubators?

How many Hamas recruits are/were children? Or are you assuming all children are Hamas recruits?

Well **** me pink, is this the new line of defence, Child soldiers?

There's been zero talk of child soldiers. You can guarantee if there was a single child soldier holding an AK-47, the IDF would have that picture all over the media worldwide.

Has there been any pictures of video of women Hamas fighters? I mean this is just grasping at straws ffs.

Between tunnels under every building, then command centers, then it's weapon caches, now it's child and women fighters. I mean if you believe all that drivel, it's very easy to justify the complete destruction of Gaza and the loss of life.

Israel may not have been factoring in just how alienated Trump (plus Musk) has made himself from the EU and other western countries in the last two or three weeks. The US and Israel being a bilateral alliance of two rogue and deeply distrusted states in the west might not have been the plan they had in mind a few months ago.

Jesus Christ Blanch. Whatever excuses you concoct, they are still children. And Israel killed women and children indiscriminately throughout so what exactly are you trying to say? Are you looking for a prize for the most uncaring poster on Boards? You don't seem to need much validation for wanton murder.

More women and children have been killed in Gaza by the Israeli military between October 2023 and September 2024 than the equivalent period of any other conflict over the past two decades.

Lad you're punching smoke! There are ardent supporters of the terrorist state of Israel who'll dodge and weave any sort of hard questions w.r.t the entity they've invested in.

You'd imagine at a time when the fascist leader of the free world along with the fascist leader of the country he supports (tbh not sure anymore who's wagging the dog) is openly advocating the ethnic cleansing of an enclave (which most historical experts of genocide have already agreed upon as happening, Israelis included) that a sense of humility might take hold but naaaw…… There's a doubling down happening. There's even been use of the word "solution". I mean even Hitler probably went through several iterations before he settled on the final one right? I would also point out this is a violation of the ceasefire on US/Israel terms but that's grand.

I've seen multiple reasons as to why they think this is OK.

• The world started on October 7th, before that the Israelis weren't killing kids…. :**** rolleyes:
• Palestinians shouldn't have their own state because of domestic abuse or something
• It's not a genocide cause well their numbers are up and therefore balances out the ones killed
• There's a fake pogrom happening over here, ignore the ~48 children Israel killed today
• Hamas can't be trusted (even though Israel repeatedly scuppered any deal)
• Criticizing Israel might upset those in Washington and therefore affect our FDI, clearly morals can be bought.

I mean I could continue but its rehashing more of the same ****. I'm still waiting on a reason as to why a Palestinian life is worth less than an Israeli, no-one wants to field that toughie. It would seem that being antisemitic (when antisemitic is pointing out any of the above) is the worst thing possible but being out-and-out racist is A-OK…..

How many women in Gaza were/are Hamas combatants? No need for a number - a percentage will do.

Why do you say that those killed by Israel were “shredded” while those killed by Hamas were “killed” or “casualties” 🤔

Are you saying we should give them the benefit of the doubt that the children they killed were terrorists?

Nobody knows, unless you do.

Hamás certainly have the history of using women as combatants.

Don't think any of us have any numbers on that.

This is genocide denial. On a par with holocaust denial.

Plenty of high-up israelis have said that the intention was to get rid of the people of Gaza. This is genocide.

Sure over in Canada, they are now admitting that their settler-colony is based on genocide. Of course, they have genocide deniers too. The difference being that white people are in such a huge majority that they can afford to be "generous", while in Palestine the situation is very different. Palestinians already formed 50% of the population before the genocide started.

Despite the zionists' attempts, they now form a larger proportion, and this is purely down to israeli actions: it has driven huge numbers of jews out of the country.

This time last year, there was already talk of 500,000 israelis having left, and Ilan Pappé wrote as much in this article last may.

I have seen the figure of two million, but have no confirmation for it. Israel now admits 82,000 left - but nobody believes this figure, any more than they believe any other lie out of an Israeli mouth.

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Are you saying we should we give Israel the benefit of the doubt that the approx 20 thousand women they killed - and the 40 thousand or so injured - were violent terrorists?

I suspect that if the truth ever comes out, we will discover that most of the civilians killed on October 7th were killed by Israel.

They are just throwing out muck, and hoping enough will stick long enough for them to think up their next lie.

You know the old trope about lawyers? "How do you know a lawyer is lying? - Their lips are moving".

Well it applies to Zionists too.

Nope. Same question, as I said to another poster. Why you asking me that?

They have a playbook alright.

I don't know the usual suspects on here care if Israel is a guilty of genocide of war crimes or not? It's so fake. They care more about Israel being found innocent than the fact than tens of thousands of civilians have been killed, in a war where those civilians don't have an actual army to fight back.

I don't know why so many in here, presumably from Ireland, would care about Israel enough to defend it. Trying to allude to mass murders of women and children as legitimate as they are "terrorists" is a new low it's clear as air that they use baseless accusations of antisemetism to poorly mask their seething racism.

Also, we hear the common threats that we would be destroying our economy by calling Israel out, because Israel are so powerful in the USA. They do wield a mad amount of influence for sure, but I wonder why, if they can instruct America and it's business to abandon Ireland, they have the second highest poverty rate in the OECD - only Costa Rica has a higher poverty rate. 2 million Israelis live in poverty - 1 in 4 Israeli children are poor? Poverty in Ireland is half that.

If they have so much influence over American corporations, it's amazing they couldn't have convinced more companies to go there and create more jobs to help lift their poor out of poverty.