Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

I would have no transfer fee, would take any contract and definitely low wages.

And most importantly, I'd work hard in training, wouldn't get banned for PED's, wouldn't fall out with the manager and wouldn't destroy the culture of the playing squad for the next decade.

There are only a few un-important metrics and abilities in which Pogba would be a better signing than me.

Can always count on pogba to get a thread moving 😁😁😁

I'd have absolutely no desire to go back there.

I think the club needs to have standards. We all want to win but we need to have standards before winning.. We need to win in the right way with the right players. we won two cups the last two years it means absolutely nothing because the manager and alot of the team are now gone.

We need players that first of all want to be be team winners, not individual winners.

It's hardly fair to lay the deterioration of culture at Pogba's door. He was a key cog in a World Cup winning culture. The upper echelon of the club was run by accountants with no understanding of football, constantly repeating the same mistakes. They're responsible for what happened to the culture, not Pogba.

People talk about him as if he was some massive flop for us which I completely disagree about. Did he hit the heights that were expected of him or propel the team to winning major trophies? No. Was he quite often our best midfield player between 2016-22 when fit? I would say unquestionably yes. Players like Antony, Sanchez etc. are actual flops and not to be conflated with players like Pogba who actually made some good contributions over his time.

He was playing very well under Ole for a decent period but the team became totally unbalanced when we signed Ronaldo for the purpose of stopping him going to City and everything soon collapsed.

Jaysus had a look too, Brandon Williams still without a club!

We do need a LCB.....

He was a key cog in the lowering of standards and degradation of culture within the playing squad.

Honestly, I disagree with basically everything in your post regarding Pogba. But thats ok, thankfully he is long gone and we won't ever have to deal with that circus again.

If INEOS were to actually sign him in March then all excuses about rebuilds and long term planning can immediately be thrown in the bin.

How do people think Ratcliffe/Berrada/Wilcox are viewing Amorim's position right now?

A. He was given a poisoned chalice and we couldn't have expected much more. There was inevitably going to be major pain when transitioning from counter attack 4-3-3 to possession/control oriented 3-4-3. He's impressive in press conferences, knows what he's talking about and has a clear idea of what he wants to do. Even though results haven't been good, we've seen enough to trust that this guy can coach a PL title challenging side withing the next 3 years. No questions about his future.

B. He's doing an ok job in very challenging circumstances. Results could be better but it's a big ask to completely change the playing style mid season with a squad lacking in key areas. Safe for now, there would have to be a further deterioration in performances and results to consider changing him this Summer.

C. Feel they underestimated how much work was required to mould the squad to fit Amorim's 3-4-3 system and also how his system would translate in the Premier League. Regret appointing him and in hindsight would've hired a more conventional manager. Very disappointed that he hasn't gotten more out of the existing squad. Hesitant to trust him enough to rebuild the squad around his 3-4-3 and active discussions on their next move if things don't pick up between now and the end of the season.

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Again this isn't about what you or I think, it's about what INEOS are thinking.

Irwin was on the overlap and looked fit, even said he's playing paddle. That has to count

and that’s that

It is what it is.

They have to trust the manager. His tactics are a winning tactics and his mothods are winning methods so allow him time and space to change them. He shouldn't be under any pressure whatsoever. Yes in summer there needs to be players brought in and we should not be in bottom half of table next season but I also wouldn't be surprised if we are not in top four next season.

This is the first manager that has been brought in and allowed to build the team his way. Ten hag tried it and gave up after two games, ole didn't bother he just ran with the fergie times and tried to feed off it as much as he could. Jose was not backed with his type of player nor was lvg.

Amad is doing well under amorim, we may find kobe might develop further as a number 10, Collyer can get more valuable experience and see how he fits into the team. There's so much that can be built in between now and end of season.

Wait until he scores!

No player's agent would agree to that. They are there to protect the players interest and in fairness a player could end up legitimately injured with a broken leg etc..

Mount was either becoming an Injury prone player or the Utd medical staff is totally useless but as soon as he came through the door he was broken

He played plenty for Chelsea in the seasons before so either something was in the background and we missed it (or ignored) during his medical or our medical team actually can't keep players fit.

shaw injury set back again i believe

So Amorim says it was his decision not to make new signings in the window. Not sure about the headline but I assume that this is the key part:

I look at the team, my decision changing everything in the middle of the season without new signings is a danger for a coach, but I have a clear idea of what I want to do and I take these risks because in the end it's going to pay off.

I take from that, that he intends to work with and change the players he has, no?

Because a lot of people give him a pass until he can replace the players, but if he himself says he knows what he wants to do and that it didn't include new signings just yet, then is that not on him going forward?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c8r58jljy84o

Manchester United manager Ruben Amorim says it was his decision to take the "risk" of not signing more players in the January transfer window.