General Premier League Thread 2024-25

Oh yeah I'm not in that conversation, I wouldn't be writing Amorim off. In fact I think any big club needs to give a manager at least 2 full seasons before knowing either way, you can't build your own team in any less than that, and as you say, creating a Champions League winning team could take him 4 years, but he definitely can get there

I just love the reminder of 2019. Glorious time

My memory is shite, I thought Klopp won the league cup in his first season 🤦🏻‍♂️

He lost the League Cup and Europa League Final in his first season

Arsenal have signed both Havertz & Jesus in the last 3 seasons.

Like Ten Hag did with Sancho and Ronaldo?

"Vibes" is what you get from a Solskjaer, Amorim needs to start showing a bit more than vibes.

Vibes was a bit of a running insult to basicly put down Solskjaer by saying he has no tactical quality just "vibes".

The interest in Alonso was all media based. He said in an interview during the summer that there had been no contact from the club. Liverpool had spoken to Amorim but the newly appointed Director of Football, Richard Hughes wanted Arne Slot and Michael Edwards agreed with him.

If we are using Klopp as the measuring stick the that is a fan assessment 2 years after taking over.

Nothing won at this stage and an acceptance that there was still plenty to fix.

Anyone trying to put pressure on Amrorim after 3 months and pointing to Klopp as an example is a hypocrite simple as.

It takes time to turn a squad around when the rot has set in

Klopp lost 1 of his first 10 games. They were in 10th when he took over and he finished 8th, making it to 2 cup finals. The following season they finished in the top 4. Real, tangible progress at every stage.

Amorim has made Utd worse but he’d argue it’s to make them stronger in the long term. Time will tell. But he’s need to winning an odd home game along the way.

scholes saying that he was quite alarmed in when he saw what Amorim’s United were doing in a match warmup was possibly a quite valuable insight.

Shape work in a match warmup seems a weird choice. I doubt even a control freak like pep would favour that approach.

I think only chance it tightens right up is if Pool get a slew of injuries…. They are playing very well and very consistantly and look too good with current matchday squads to drop enough points imo.

I do think it was a mistake to insist he arrived immediately, though. He wanted to wait until the summer and that was absolutely the right call - could have gotten rid of ETH and kept Ruud in charge for the season. They still could have worked with him about which players to target and which should be moved on without him being physically there.

But having him arrive immediately to work with that mess of a squad who isn’t used to how he likes to play has put needless pressure on him. This season was never going to be anything but transitional anyway, but because the results have been poor under him I think there’s going to be huge pressure over the summer to show a sizeable improvement. If the results next year are middling I could see questions being asked.

United giving a new contract to ETH was a mistake and expecting Amorim to come in and improve things straight away was another one. Getting that team up to title challengers is a multi-season project where basically all decisions need to be the right ones, but the current club management seem to be too impatient for that.