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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • #6782
    CelticRambler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123138186#Comment_123138186

    Any chance you could provide a link to this "recent article" and/or be a bit more specific about who these two Ukrainian journalists are?



  • #6783
    CelticRambler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123138143#Comment_123138143

    I know nothing about these trackers, but I would imagine the arrows are a very vague representation of drone sightings by people on the ground. So they're not starting from an occupied zone, just seen there. Chances are a couple of dozen started from the same base, then fanned out half way across the occupied territory.



  • #6784
    Leg End Reject
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,844 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Mod: @brickster69, please only use English language links.

    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




  • #6785
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,462 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123138143#Comment_123138143

    Think it's from when (as stated by a poster above) they are picked up by residents and reported online

    Or when they go boom. Like this one a few minutes ago

    https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1887215115793018981

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • #6786
    zv2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭zv2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123138143#Comment_123138143

    That's just the way the arrows are drawn. They originate outside the occupied zone.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



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  • #6787
    Rawr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,686 ✭✭✭Rawr


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123138041#Comment_123138041

    Would be nice to send a couple drones a bit further south along the Russian coast. A certain someone has his gaudy mansion down that way. Could do with some….”remodelling”



  • #6788
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,230 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    According to the Telegraph Trump's peace plan includes security guarantees for Ukraine and Russia maintaning the territory it holds.

    It includes potentially freezing the conflict and the territory occupied by Russian forces while assuring Ukraine with security guarantees to ensure that Moscow cannot attack again, according to Bloomberg.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/02/05/trump-plan-ukraine-peace-deal-unveiled-security-summit/



  • #6789
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123138809#Comment_123138809

    Sounds like a terrible 'deal'. Would Ukraine hold the area it has around Kursk too I wonder. Can Putin be trusted to stick to any deal?



  • #6790
    jmreire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭jmreire


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123138223#Comment_123138223

    Thats what a lot of Russian conscripts thought too!!!.



  • #6791
    Mr. CooL ICE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,824 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123138186#Comment_123138186

    Links to support this please or else it's all projection



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  • #6792
    jmreire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭jmreire


    While all the time being fully aware of the governing principle of Nuclear War, the MAD doctrine. In an all out nuclear war, there will not be any winners. So therefore, it would be MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction) to ever start such a war. Would Putin start such a MAD war? I doubt it very much.



  • #6793
    Slava_Ukraine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Slava_Ukraine


    Swap Ukraine or Ukrainian to Russia or Russian in your crap and you are pretty spot on. I managed it in a few words and not the lengthy bs you come out with.



  • #6794
    silliussoddius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,622 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123138809#Comment_123138809

    What a deal! Mayne this is why it took longer than day one.



  • #6795
    flutered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭flutered


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123138186#Comment_123138186

    completly wrong op, they were russian symptisers who were arrested and charged



  • #6796
    RGARDINR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123138809#Comment_123138809

    If that's the case Russia will be going all out to try and get as much Ukraine land as they can before hand, that's if Ukraine agree to it of course at the conference. Regarding Kursk I say Russia will get it back but probably end up Ukraine getting the same amount of their own land back in exchange for it. It's a hard one to call if Ukraine would agree to it if they were told by the US were not going to supply you with anything if you dont agree to it. I say at this stage Russia would agree to it as there screwed to a big extent but if the US does walk away from Ukraine then Russia might continue on as they might feel they could win then.



  • #6797
    Dick phelan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Russian reserves really starting to run out. They really need the war to end soon. It would be absolutely insane for Ukraine or the EU to accept a crap deal.

    https://fortune.com/2025/01/26/russian-war-economy-moment-of-truth-vladimir-putin-stagflation-cash-reserves-financial-crash/



  • #6798
    yagan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,841 ✭✭✭yagan


    Putin has zero leverage.

    If he threatens nukes then it's immediately a regional escalation involving NATO members.

    He'll be lucky to hang on to sevastapol.



  • #6799
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,885 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123138873#Comment_123138873

    Can Putin be trusted to stick to any deal?

    That's why the security guarantee is so crucial. If it's solid enough, such as NATO membership im all but name, the question of Putin's trustworthiness becomes moot…



  • #6800
    alias no.9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,405 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123139172#Comment_123139172

    I don't think there's an outcome where Putin is lucky to hang on to Sevastapol.

    If Putin hangs on to Sevastapol, he probably holds the Donbas too. It will take a Russian implosion for the latter to fall and if it does, and I hope it does, then all bets are off, Putin will be lucky to hang on to his underpants.



  • #6801
    Pete_Cavan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,382 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123138186#Comment_123138186

    After the last round of Ukrainian drone attacks targeting strategic infrastructure, Russia's irony reserves have been completely wiped out, as "their man on boards.ie" proves.



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  • #6802
    Deregos.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Deregos.


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123138809#Comment_123138809

    Considering his latest comments, I'm surprised Trump hasn't proposed that the US take over the whole region and turn it into a golf course . . yet.



  • #6803
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,462 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Interesting development

    https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1887416182090633301

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • #6804
    Field east
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Field east


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123138186#Comment_123138186

    if the ‘vast majority of UKr do not want to fight ‘ for a VERY CLEAR OBJECTIVE/ PURPOSE then, IMO , the vast majority of the Russians MULTIPLIED BY FIVE - if that’s possible- do not want to fight either for nothing apart from their BOSS’S WISHES.



  • #6805
    Field east
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Field east


    Re Moscow not attacking again BECAUSE of American SECURITY GUARANTEE . How did the exact same guarantee go the last time that there was one when UKr gave over to Ru the keys to all of it’s nuclear arms ????????????????????????????
    And the guarantee being made under a Trump administration. WHATEVER!!!!!!!!



  • #6806
    zv2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭zv2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123139706#Comment_123139706

    The Russians have stated that they do not do business by agreements. For them agreements are only an means to an end.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • #6807
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Ukraine's media is struggling with grants being cut off according to Oksana Romaniuk, director of the Ukraine's Institute of Mass Information. Most of it appears to be from the US but also they hope that EU and UN can increase the amounts that they have been contributing.

    https://imi.org.ua/en/news/oksana-romaniuk-90-of-ukrainian-media-survived-thanks-to-grants-i66314

    Seems that assistance from various government sponsored aid groups such as Usaid and other Ngo's have been operating some time providing types of training and assistance going back as far as 2004 in Ukraine.

    A piece was actually found going back to 2006 on USAID's very own website claiming the various assistance they and others provided.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20060130080730/http%3A//www.usaid.gov/press/frontlines/fl_jan06/democracy.htm

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • #6808
    Dubh Geannain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123139159#Comment_123139159

    Short article but to the point -

    That leaves Moscow’s oft-tapped National Wealth Fund, which has already seen liquid assets plunge to $31 billion from $117 billion before the war, to fill any gaps. Åslund estimated that what’s left in the fund is only enough to finance three-quarters of Russia’s budget deficit this year.

    …

    “For at least the next year, the Kremlin should be able to keep its overheating economy from exploding into a full-blown crisis,” Prokopenko said. “Putin will likely still have the resources to sustain his brutal campaign in Ukraine—and perhaps the incentive to wait out the West.”

    The minute Russia offer to negotiate you know they're properly fooked. Their economy won't miraculously bounce straight back in a ceasefire scenario and who's going to finance the redevelopment of conquered territories? China maybe as they will still not been seen as a reliable creditor after stealing so many Western assets since the invasion.

    As much as I think a deal might have been done a long time ago I'd be sick now if I was Ukrainian, who's been relentlessly attacked for 3 years. But then when my attacker finally punches himself out they call for a deal. As always it should be their decision and one that could end up dividing Ukraine further. The Ukrainian decision makers will need to be very careful about the nature of any settlements.



  • #6809
    yagan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,841 ✭✭✭yagan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123139936#Comment_123139936

    One big advantage that Ukraine has over Putin when it comes to Trump is that they know Trump loves praise, whereas Putin's whole psyche sits atop the belief that Russia under his rule is a superpower equal to the USA, and so Ukraine via it's "Donald you're the best, your ideas are biggliest" will hold his ear far more than a Putin who's got the stench of loser.



  • #6810
    Bitcoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    https://twitter.com/casualdiot/status/1887440902160801876

    Could be a big Ukrainian breakthrough there.



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  • #6811
    purplepanda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,131 ✭✭✭purplepanda


    I can't see most European nations just letting Trump & the USA reward Putin & his scummy evil empire by letting them keep their gains in Ukraine. Even if Trump really thinks he can just impose a deal on Europe, over the wishes of France, Poland, most ex Soviet & Baltic States, Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Norway & Britain.

    I'm not sure if Spain & Portugal would ultimately back Ukraine, but I would hope Italy, Greece & Turkey would. Obviously Hungary & Slovakia would support Putin, against the wishes of the own people. Germany is paralysed & doesn't know what to do, they can't be relied on.

    If such a deal is imposed Europe needs to totally rearm & kick Russia out of Ukraine, Europe is more than wealthy enough to do so, certainly technologically advanced to do so, all is needed is the will. Even if there is a "peace deal" it's only a matter of time before Russia again expands westwards, their former colonies in Eastern & Central Europe know this, it's only brain washed hard left & far right tankie vermin that take the side of Putin & Russia.

    We really can't have another century of Russia & America telling Europe what to do. Charles De Gaulle was right all along.

    Europe needs to tell Trump to stick his corrupt "peace deal" where the sun don't shine!

    Post edited by purplepanda on


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