Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

This goes back to that long post I put up a few pages back. In his mind, there has to be a winner and a loser for every deal or negotiation, and I mean for everything. When you sprinkle on some ego and a soft mind, it is a recipe for him saying stupid things but firmly believing that he is right.

you realise that's exactly what happened in Germany and eastern europe after World War 2 as decided by the Allies - US, UK etc.

sometimes changes are needed after a war to settle the peace

At the end of the day, if a country reelects a man who touted a grand and baseless conspiracy about the election he previously lost and incited a portion of his followers to attack the US Capitol based on this lie, that country absolutely deserves him and whatever policies he decides to enact.. The rest of the western world doesn't necessarily deserve him but the US does. The rest of the western world can just watch US democracy crumble in real time.

Even if you say that the rest of the US who didn't vote for him don't deserve him, not enough of them actually got out to vote. If you say that there was gerrymandering or voter purging or voter intimidation or various other forms of political skullduggery, there are ways to combat these tactics. It's not like it wasn't known that Trump and his minions were cooking up various strategies and plans. Steve Bannon was well known to be toting his 'precinct strategy', for example, whereby MAGA would infiltrate every level of the US electoral system. The determination was there on the MAGA side. Not so much on the other.

Trump will continue to consolidate power while the Democrats continue to look on with impotent anger. Dictators work on a basis of emergency. 'There is an emergency in this country and so extraordinary powers must be vested in me in order to fix it'. Trump has already declared two. One on energy and one at the US southern border, so it's obviously the kind of language he's attracted to and it's not surprising.

If the Democrats are to have any hope of turning the tide, they're going to have to become as determined and radical as MAGA has been. 'They go low, we go high' has NOT worked. It has been a failure. The kind of relatively balanced political atmosphere that we can remember from the 90s and 2000s is not coming back, though it feels like there is a forlorn hope among Democratic heads that it will. History will not remember them well.

If he honestly thinks this is a seriously workable proposal then he has lost touch with reality. Gazans won't go willingly and Hamas certainly won't not to mention what Iran would start doing. It would take tens of thousands of American soldiers many of whom would not come home. His base that voted him in are vehemently against getting involved in another messy Middle Eastern conflict that would probably go on for many years. He has amassed a lot of power, but even with all 3 branches of government I don't think he could this. It just doesn't make an ounce of sense as a serious plan, if he wants to develop beach front property with his son in law there are much easier ways to do that.

I don't know what his plan is here, or if there even is one. The only thing I can think of is that it's just a big distraction while Musk and Trumps other billionaire friends dismantle the federal government and find new ways to make themselves even richer and more powerful.

A large part of the Israel Lobby is the evangelical Christians bloc who it's damn hard to win elections without.

And hard to reason with, given that many of them subscribe to what amounts to a doomsday cult that require Isreal to exist for their Armageddon prophecies to play out.

This nonsense amplified is what gets the likes of Donnie and his gouls in power.

Let me rephrase. I find Trumps executive orders both interesting and long overdue. Am really excited about these orders coming in. A victory for common sense in a world which has lost the plot.

The outrage is just a bonus...

He's getting through a lot. When is the last time you saw the Democrats implementing a change agenda with such vigour?

Are senior Democrats making plenty of noise in the US criticising all these decisions?

I see Chuck Schumer being wheeled out a lot but it's the same old Democrats, toothless. They need to stop being so reasonable and nice and take a leaf out of the Reublican playbook and how they go on the attack. The Democrats are too timid.

Trump was the former president and then the Republican nomination for president not the head of the Republican party.

Biden had the power to stop the genocide at the stroke of a pen especially as a one term president but chose to keep funding and arming the Israeli's.

I don't support ethnic cleansing and would appreciate if you didn't put such slurs on me.

He’s energised by destructing things - that takes little effort - yes it “looks” impressive - but what will be the legacy of those exec orders etc in the weeks and months to come? Some impacts may be more visible quickly than others - but I sense a whole heap of disarray for many Americans soon - it takes a lot more energy to create than it does to destroy. What he’s doing is “easy”.

Do you realize the difference between historic events, and current affairs?

It's ludicrous to equate Higgins' mindset or ideology with that if Trump. Nonsense. Deflecting Nonsense.