Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

Biggest risk to to the US is if the USD stops being the global reserve currency, and Oil stops being traded in USD

The end of the petro-dollar would see US currency value collapse and that 2 trillion in debt gets very very expensive

How’s that portfolio looking over there? 🫣

I agree that the dems are not "woke" or even remotely left wing but maga were successful in painting them in that way. Biden was tweeting about trans rights up to an including 2024.

I know it's the "right thing" to do to support marginalised people but like it or not, a tweet like that is spun in Republican land as Biden supporting every crazy claim about trans issues that the Republicans can come up with.

On another point the left were very bad at bringing people along with their cause. If you didn't agree with every batshit crazy idea you were branded a far right transphobe. They had no tolerance for decent or ability to debate. It was all insults. These positions all got conflated into one and the Democrats couldn't shake the claim that they support all these causes.

All in all, what I'm saying it they need to get back to basics of they want to win in 2028. They are not going to win on fringe issues. The maga and Republican scum will spin and lie so there is no point giving them more ammunition.

Interestingly, these accelerationists are the reason Trump wants Greenland.

They see Greenland as the perfect place to establish their post apocalyptic utopian libertarian colonies. As the ice retreats and the rest of the world burns, struggles to get clean drinking water and battles the consequences of climate change

This is exactly why the Democrats lost the election. They fought the election in Nancy Pelosi and Obama's agenda. Abortion, men in women's dressing rooms, middle class educated intellectuals.

They lost the young African Americans male, the Hispanic vote and the blue collar white American. And they will not admit it.

The Problem in the US is education or lack of it. Less than 50% end up with a third level education and a core of them want to enforce there idealogical beliefs on the rest of the population. The African American woman will vote Democrat whether poor or middle class.The poorer African American male along with the Hispanics turned there back on this mainly white idealogical elite. The Hispanics women followed these religious beliefs.

Swing states controlled by Republican governors will vote for whoever the governor decides they vote for. (Hint, its republicans)

They managed to disenfranchise over 3.5 million votes when Biden was in charge. They'll do a lot more now that there is nobody to stop them

@ancapailldorcha

Europe won't start anything but we will be prepared and our response will be quick and decisive

There's already been countless podcasts and talk shows about Why did Trump win. In future, there'll be hundreds of questions asking the same thing.

This is what it comes down to.

They (the Democrats) ran a centre-right campaign with nothing for Palestinians, LGBT people or climate change and the American voters decided that the man who presided over hundreds of thousands of needless deaths was better.

That's it, in a nutshell.

Again this is mostly an example of judging Democrats to a way higher standard than Republicans.

They had no tolerance for decent or ability to debate. It was all insults. 

Have you been watching US politics or US political media for the last ten years? Have you seen conservative media and how they reported on Michelle Obama? Have you seen Trump and his commentary on people with disabilities and sh*thole countries and the likes? And him flat walking out of interviews or calling stories he didn't like "fake news".

But no, the democrats had no decency or ability to debate! I feel like I am in a twilight zone reading some of this.

The problem imo is that neither party really cares about the majority of Americans who are struggling to buy a home, send their kids to school, have a good job and good quality medical care. Railing about woke/immigrants/lack of parental leave/IVF affordability is tone-deaf. Much like what was said in 2016 about HRC, what does either party have to offer the out of work steel worker in Pittsburgh? Reskilling? A new NAFTA that exported their jobs?

Plus, Obamacare really didn't answer the lack of affordability of good quality health care. It's still disastrous; the Trumpists have only ever made it worse and especially now, and in the near future, for women.

Your points about education are well made and as always, nothing good comes from the influence of any religion on politics or society.

Still, a more vibrant candidate might've focused the voters more to at least get out and vote. I'm liking this Senator Bennett in the CrayCray Gabbard hearings, maybe he can make a run. I'd hoped Mark Kelley from AZ would've come out stronger, he's a Democratic Senator from a western state with excellent 'centrist' bona-fides; Astronaut, military vet and his wife is a strong advocate for sensible gun control having survived a horrible shooting while in Congress. But, he seemed a lot like the proverbial damp squib during the Gabbard hearings.

The premise of my comment was in relation to winning an election. That was my starting preface.

Abortion, men in women's dressing rooms, middle class educated intellectuals.

Access to healthcare is a massive and growing problem for tens of millions of American women. I didn't see Harris fighting the election on men in womens dressing room but its a measure of the messed up world we live in that the electorate allowed that to be seen as a big part of the conversation when the candidate they voted for literally believed he could walk in to womens dressing rooms because he was famous and running the pagents he held. And he bragged about grabbing them by their privates if he so choose to.

But apparently even though that was widely known, and it was the conservatives who brought womens dressing rooms in to the conversation, it is the fault of the Democrats that people bought this BS?

I blame the Democrats for plenty, absolutely. But the people responsible for Trump winning are the people who voted for him and the people who refused to hold him to account. Anything else is just deflecting.

From a Dem strategist

"Democratic leadership acts like it’s permanently 2006, a year when, yes, we took back the Senate, but also before the Republican party found a cult leader and lost its collective minds.

We don’t live in that world any more. We have a lifelong conman and convicted felon in the Oval Office who tries every day to turn this country into a dictatorship; let’s start acting like it.

That means you can’t be mad about Trump trying to freeze government spending in the morning, and vote for his Treasury secretary – who will destroy the economy – in the afternoon. Stop helping Trump."

I'd agree, the Dems need to shake this malaise and get onto a war footing. They need to unite now and fight every step of this tooth and nail - otherwise they are enabling it.

Even if they don't succeed, they need to be seen trying.

I agree with paragraphs 1 and 2, but paragraph 3 is incredibly nieve and blinkered as the groups you describe in 1 and 2 feed off the issues in 3. There's no point putting our heads in the sand about it. It's also ridiculous to claim that anyone that thinks trans issues and DEI were in any way attributable to maga support is a Trump supporter.

And before you brand me, look at my posting history here. I even received a 24 hour ban (for the first time as a member of boards for over 20 years) for a comment on this thread about people who voted for Trump.

The reason why cretins like Trump, Johnson and Putin get into power again and again is because of left wing virtue signalling and whinging, the left are judged by the media to a much higher standard then the right. All the right need to do is come up with idiotic slogans like "Get Brexit Done" or "Make America great again" and they are in like flint.

The thing which swung it for Trump this time was putting a typical shopping basket in front of him at a speech and saying "food costs too much".

Left wing sloganism is an oxymoron. You can't put all 100 things they are going to fix into an election slogan that idiot voters can latch onto.