Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

Like who. Nkunku?

Evertons squad was ready made for Moyes system.

Or, we shouldn't have gone into the lady day if the window with our only plan being tel for a deal bayern didn't want. Tel, who didn't seem available at all until 4 days ago.

Its pathetic, imo, that we put all our eggs in a last minute basket without knowing if a deal could even be done.

Not paying 60m for tel isn't the issue. It's leaving us short in attack cause we thought we'd get a deal that wasn't on offer because we've executed a terrible window.

Most will say he needs at least 2 transfer windows for his team to take shape which I agree with to a certain extent.

But it's all about context. For example, if he lost 15 out of his first 20 games I'd be surprised if he survived.

Only 4 wins from 13 in the league is extremely poor for a new manager but 4 wins from 4 in the Europa has us hopeful for the CL. Plus most fans accept he inherited a sh1tshow.

What's up with the second question?

There are two separate aspects in my mind.

2/3 or even 4/5 transfer windows to build his own team, I have no problem with that. I'd like almost every player replaced so I can fully understand why it will take a long time to do that.

But thats the future. In the present I expect the coach to both make some use out of the players available and also to improve some of the players that are there.

And Amorim is not doing this. They are worse than they were under Ten Hag. The defence is leaking like a sieve, the attack has completely stalled and there still isn't a settled first 11.

Amorim inherited a shitshow yes. And now they are even worse again. He needs to do better.

I really, really hope there are 2/3 deals lined up for tomorrow, and I really hope that Dorgu makes an immediate impact. Because the current trajectory only ends one way.

The second question relates to people who give the coach a complete free pass no matter how poor the performance. There comes a point when even they will have to start questioning whether he is a solution, or actually just another unfortunate problem.

Lads stop using Antony as leverage for rage 😂 Hes awful and won't be missed, I'd be happier with Mather getting games ahead of him.

Rashford is fair to use.

It’s not about replacing Antony because that’s obviously not something that needs replacing. It’s about understanding that him being gone (from a financial perspective), along with Rashford should be enough to bring in a goalscorer, which we desperately need. Big statement from the manager with his starting 11 today, highlighting that we don’t have a striker he trusts to score a goal.

This is the state of play according to Laurie Whitwell

“The proposed move taking Mathys Tel to Manchester United is regarded as unlikely at this stage, with the club wanting to stay financially prudent into the final 24 hours of the January transfer window.

Tel, the 19-year-old Bayern Munich forward, has been considered by United due to his potential availability on loan. But sources describe talks over Tel as cool, with United calm should no further signings arrive.

United have also looked at Chelsea's Christopher Nkunku and Aston Villa's Leon Bailey as short-term options, but neither deal is being progressed. Club executives are minded to only pursue transfers that make sporting and monetary sense and will not press ahead unless that is the case.”

For me.. I think someone needs to come in if we are to win the Europa League. The club knows how important having European football next season is in terms of easing the financial issues, and winning the EL is our best chance of that. We may do it with the current squad but having another option could be worth the outlay now come the end of May.

Antony since 4pm today.

So this comment here where you don't mention financials?

Also no financials mentioned in whatshisnames comment, are we supposed to be mind readers?

Trying everything with limited options and budget is what the headline should be.

You could always ask instead of jumping to ridiculous conclusions. Everyone knows that the reason why United are not able to bring people in has been financials related. The point I made is that if you are planning to free up the salary of two very well paid players, you should have a plan in place to use that saving to bring someone into the forward line, that has been awful this season. Why on earth would anyone pretend that losing Antony was some disaster, knowing that everyone in this thread knows he doesn’t offer anything and hardly plays? That’s what you took from two comments? If the word “financials” need to be mentioned every time to help with your comprehension, then I’ll do my best to remember that.

”My point is nobody gave a shite about Antony until the loss today and now are using him to have a rant as if hes being missed.”

Again, this is all in your head. It hasn’t been suggested by anybody and the meme which you posted has no relevance to anything that has been said either. Whatever makes you think that you’re funny though 😉

Ok so someone makes a comment we should ask what they really mean 🤔

All in my head? Sure says the man assuming another posters comments align with his and goes as far as tagging them for some support....

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Keep moving those goalposts to suit your awful take.

If you're unclear, which you were, then yeah it would make sense to do so. Especially if you are somehow of the mind that people are suggesting that Antony would be missed, which is bizarre and would definitely make me wonder too.

Tagging for support? No, you've assumed incorrectly again. I tagged the person to allow them to have the opportunity to explain their comment, if they wanted to.

What goalposts were moved? What was awful about my take?