Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

Another Ill informed Irish masochist sucking on the teat of MAGA. Probably spending too much time reading right wing shite on Facebook.

You do know those tariffs could impact you directly? You live in Ireland, not America...

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Thinking about this further, it's similar to their stance on violent acts/crime in the US.

They will blame immigration straight away.

If it turns out to be an immigrant, that proves them "right".

If it isn't, they'll ignore and wait until the next act.

It's about messaging, not accuracy.

Thankfully for him, his people don't give a **** about facts.

You can see it when Klepper is at the rallies.

It's similar to the positive market with Biden. They say "Oh, that's because Trump is going to get in and fix things", but when the market is negative with Biden, the answer is "Well, it's Biden's fault".

Cult mindset.

There's an ongoing purge of statistically relevant data now from multiple government agencies. On top of that census.gov has mysteriously disappeared. I'm sure there will be some posters along to justify this. Also plenty of this stuff goes back as far as the Bush era. I know a lot of Trump fans tend to cite Orwell for some bizarre reason but rewriting and purging historical data is genuinely Orwellian.

https://www.theverge.com/news/604484/donald-trumps-data-purge-has-begun

You're labouring under quite a misapprehension as to what DEI is. Educate yourself. This article posted earlier in the thread is just the tip of the iceberg.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/feb/1/editorial-faa-turned-away-qualified-air-traffic-co/?utm_campaign=twt_app&utm_medium=twt_app_link&utm_source=twt_app

Trump's administration is right to mercilessly root it out.

I do. I have a different view to yours, so that resorts in insults.
I don’t base my opinions from social media.

Trump was elected in, so that makes everyone that voted him in clueless , but O1s1n, the important mod from boards knows better ?

keep whining 😂

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Before the election, a Newsweek article predicted Democratic reaction if Trump won:

If Harris loses, prepare for a full-blown meltdown of epic proportions. They will seethe at the racist deplorables who again elected Trump, and they will refuse to acknowledge racial changes in support because it contradicts their ideology.

The DNC convention last night did exactly that. As reported by the Daily Mail and others, every candidate running for Democratic National Committee chair raised their hand Thursday night when asked if Vice President Kamala Harris lost the 2024 race at least partially due to 'racism' and 'misogyny.'

Calling their working class voters white supremacists didn't seem to work in 2024 and doubling down won't work on 2028. I have family in the US who couldn't bear to vote for Trump but did so anyway on the grounds that they'd nowhere else to go.

Kermit.de.frog has pointed out that this could be 8 or 12 years and going by the DNC performance, this could be right.

Investors make money by hedging, not hoping. Hoping is not a valid investment strategy. Ireland needs to be careful.

It sounds cruel. But some people really do have to learn the hard way.

They insist on it.

Imagine the outcry if this was happening from the other side?

Frankly, I draw the line at electing a felon/racist/fascist.

It's a line I'll never cross, regardless of the remainder of their manifesto.

I cannot fathom how others could ever be okay with that.

and America supposed be the land of freedom . Weird set up, weird people, and a nutcase at the wheel..

A colleague of mine who has visited the US dozens of times (and quite a few different cities) says he will never set foot in the place again. He finds the new version of the country positively scary, especially since the whole MAGA thing emerged.

Firstly, there are 10s of millions of people in the States right now who will drag themselves by the balls through broken glass to vote for Trump or Trump endorsed. He could literally urinate down these people's necks and they would say, 'Hmm, I bet this rain is the fault of those Democrat windmills.'

Secondly, who was holding the ball at the time of the 2008 crash? The Republicans. Who got voted back in eight years later? The Republicans under Trump. And then Trump got voted back in again even after he incited a mob to attack the US Capitol based on a half-baked conspiracy theory. So, even if the economic damage inflicted now does allow Democrats to be reelected in 2028, they're not going to be able to fix the problems, and the anger at that will cause the Republicans to be reelected in 2032 because the USA only has two parties and therefore this insane pendulum politics, and more damage will be done.

The point is to do so much damage and create so much chaos that the entire system collapses, and it is at this point they can fundamentally reshape the country, rip up the constitution and start again with a full authoritarian model.

It's already happening. The reports of what's happening regarding sackings up and down the Federal administration are red-alert alarming, yet all the Democrats can seem to is sit there shaking their head. From a pure darwinian point of view, they deserve to be wiped out.

The world is definitely heading in a whole new direction.

How far Trump manages to steer America into a country like Russia or China remains to be seen.

Will common sense prevail??

Indeed, most authoritarian dictatorships which suddenly come to power say they are going to revolutionise the way things are done : firing civil servants and going after the universities etc whilst claiming that everything that went before was corrupt, inefficient and decadent. It's very much the authoritarian playbook.

Jesus, another one.

How does the US putting tariffs on Ireland benefit you as an Irish person?

(Hint: it doesn't.)

Relating modern society to antiquarian empires is just dumb on so many levels I don't know where to start.

Is this why you're all doing 'Roman salutes' these days?