Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

I didn't think they suddenly regretted their votes.For along time it seemed to me they were mostly OK with the consequences (probably because they thought they had regained political independence even at a certain economic cost)

I was surprised though to overhear a discussion on SKY NEWS (?) the other night where I think I may have heard that support for Brexit(not sure of the actual question) was somewhere in the 30s.(and that Farage seemed to be trying to breath life into the embers.

I do hope that the US citizens who voted for Trump get a bit of cop on but I am not sure what good that will do since with Trump and his lickophants the horse may have bolted.

There were literally folks who voted for Brexit being interviewed on the news after it won in absolute shock.

They were saying how they didn't think it would pass and their vote was more to 'stick it to the man' etc.

Others later were saying they didn't realize the full implications and just 'didn't like' the EU.

I've seen the look of regret in the eyes of British citizens as they queue up at airport immigration to get into EU countries while I just whistle on by with my EU golden ticket passport.

The horse has bolted for them and it's now bolted for all the Trump supporters who are wondering if they did the right thing now that they can't collect any benefits.

A good idea (but will Trump supporters "paint stars" on their windows?)

I am sure there were some but I am not sure that a general consensus that the wrong decision was made was arrived at quickly (and ,as I said I was unaware that it had come to that now until I saw that discussion)

I think Starmer was right to play it softly softly and to just accept the result and not to wake the beast.

Seems like a reset with the EU could be acceptable to the British public now (whether the EU will be forgiving is another matter but ,maybe the EU needs all the allies it can get)

It's going to be a fascinating four years watching how the 'base' deal with the actual outcome of a right wing populist delivering all the barking mad and unhinged policies they liked the sound of in his election campaign.

Certainly not but it seems like a genuine consensus in the opposite direction may now have formed.

There always was an anti Europe feeling in England if you want to call that a kind of consensus.(Shouldn't forget how powerful Britain was and what a nest of intrigue and desperate quagmire of wars Europe has harboured over the years.It makes sense for Britain to have an overgrown sense of identity and self importance even as the world has transformed itself and Britain has to find its comfortable place )

Fascinating but a waste of time we can't afford.(will it even end after 4 years but will they steal the next elections?)

David McWilliams predicted back in November (after the election) that Trump could very easily crash the entire US economy within one to two years, if not a lot sooner. He reckons his manifesto is so batsh*t crazy (trade wars with neighbours, tariffs, mass firing of federal employees, mass deportations etc) that it would be very difficult for the place not to go bust.

It’s crazy that people are equating DEI with someone that’s unqualified.

Do they think that white men get hundreds of hours of flight training but minorities just get the keys to the aircraft?

I think I can guess what will happen there. Any negative outcomes of Trump's policies will be blamed upon a suite of political bogeymen and this will be swallowed greedily by Trump's supporters.

It's nearly in Trump's interest to make things worse for those people because the worse things get, the angrier they become and the more they double down.

If there is an election in 2028, the MAGA base will hold. The only thing that would defeat MAGA in this instance would be an exceptionally high turnout on the other side, as in 2020.

David McWilliams predicted back in November (after the election) that Trump could very easily crash the entire US economy within one to two years, if not a lot sooner. He reckons his manifesto is so batsh*t crazy (trade wars with neighbours, tariffs, mass firing of federal employees, mass deportations etc) that it would be very difficult for the place not to go bust.

The forces behind Trump would be pleased at this outcome. Economic disarray is great for the uber wealthy as ordinary people lose everything and lots of cheap property comes up for sale. Publicity desperation increases. Division increases. Crises such as these are excellent pretexts for authoritarian regimes to emerge from or consolidate power. It's all part the plan.

Crashing the economy is a sure way for Republicans to not get elected in 2028. People care about what's in their pocket, and how the stock market is performing.

this reported on Reuters yesterday and makes interesting and quite scary googling. Public servants of long standing removed from or locked out of their workplaces.

Unfortunately the USA is not an isolated country