Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

Right wing reactionary movements nearly require a bunch of left wing activists in order to justify their existence. It was true in 20s and 30s Germany where Nazis often clashed with Communists.

The faces have changed, as has some of the terminology, but we're seeing the same playbook nearly one hundred years later. This is going to get fairly worse before it gets better.

Poster - can we not do Guantanamo?

Headshot - Sure, why not give them a 5 star hotel!

Can you see how ridiculous that sounds?

You are calling the ECHR outdated? Since when were basic human dignities outdated?

Which one of these are outdated?

Right to life.

Prohibition of torture.

Prohibition of slavery.

Right to liberty.

Right to a fair trial.

No punishment without law.

Respect for private life.

Freedom of thought.

You see immigrants as the problem, when if you were in their shoes (or lack of) you would try and leave to go to somewhere better.

The problem isn't with poor people trying to have a better life, the problem is those that have extraordinary wealth and influence not being content and wanting more.

Yes. The govt. here obviously should not antagonise them, and try and keep relations good (e.g. personally thought passing an "Occupied Territories Bill" was a bad idea long before Trump's election, but mainly for other reasons than it might anger the US govt.).

However if his admin. come after us, toadying at cost of our principles or relationships with others us not going to help us, I believe.

In that event, standing up to him with the EU (and maybe the UK, who knows) is a better bet. He is a bully.

All true, but shame that the CDC can't publish any updates to the doctors in the areas in question about it. That is entirely due to the new admin. Imagine if it spreads to remote locations where doctors get a patient with the symptoms, said doctors having never seen the disease and don't dtrt immediately. Likewise for measles, polio, mumps - all rare in adults, all (save polio) making comebacks.

The CDC does lots of stuff the average person isn't aware of. Now, that's stopped whilst they purge DEI-supporting employees from their ranks. Time is passing, illnesses are being spread. Making America Ill again.

I don't know what the story was in Ireland back in the day with polio, but I'm old enough to have known a fair few polio survivors in the US when I was a child. You don't want this disease nor do you want anyone you know to have it. The prospect of it returning should terrify everyone. If RFKjr is confirmed, expect bad things.

I assume that , because Trump is referring to them as criminals, that they have been put before a Judge/ court and FOUND GUILTY of their crimes and therefor have been given a jail sentence. So the argument that they are a danger to society does not stand.

And , by the same measure, nobody forced the Irish illegals to have to go to the US either!,,,,,,,!!!,

Why is this face eating leopard eating *my* face?

Because that's what he does. He uses tragedy to make political gain.

I regret to say he has always been that way.

He is brutally immoral and completely without any empathy for anyone else.

Widescale Tariffs and protectionist policies always undermine innovation and ultimately constrain a countries ability to grow. US succeeded in a free trade environment because they promoted a culture of innovation and risk. In a protectionist world this goes. You already see it in AI, where the US companies took a sledge hammer to a nut approach and gained an early advantage in the field. Then through restrictions on chip exports attempted to cut China and others off. So Chinese companies, using Chinese knowledge that would previously have emigrated to the US to create a better and cheaper solution While the American companies are still investing in sledge hammers. Wide scape tariffs will just super charge that.

do the crime on US soil and SERVE your time on US soil - simple as. And if Trump succeeds in keeping all potential illegals out then the numbers of illegals in jail will dwindle over time

Concentration camps did not start as extermination camps, they were just places to put the people the regime identified as being the scapegoats for the reason the masses felt left behind. It is 100% a relevant comparison.

And then you see ideas like clearing out Gaza - explicit ethnic cleansing of an area of those deemed undesirable and yet you still have people claiming comparisons to previous fascist regimes are inaccurate

how do they decide who goes there?

We already had those rights under our Constitution. Signing up to the ECHR did nothing other than offer up a lever to globalists to force open our borders through the courts. We should repudiate it.

• quite apart from the fact that Cuba and Cubans are under continuous economic SANCTiONS from the USA, the cancellation of which are routinely voted down in the United Nations by the US and Israel.
  Keep a country and its population out of the economic cycle while feeling free to set up prison camps on its territory - ???

It was easy to forget how many WTF moments we had when he was in power the last time, it seems this time around may be even worse than we thought.

Vote against Trump?

Go to jail