Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

Fair enough, I’m just going off what Amorim is saying is the reason for Rashford not being in the squad, which is training. It might be other things that he doesn’t say publicly of course.

You will get childish people trying to throw ‘oh look you tried to leave and nobody wants you’ at him, which is best ignored. Of course teams would want him because they will have seen what he can do and will believe they can provide him with the environment to do it again. It would be a gamble though and I can see why clubs wouldn’t want to take on those wages - maybe a deal will be done for the rest of the season but I can’t see any obligation to buy or someone taking on a large percentage of his salary, which the club would be pushing for.

Ornstein is trying to balance it but I can also see why pundits might not be, it’s clear some are so fed up of talking about him - perhaps not an excuse to justify it but bloody hell there is something every week and it’s tiring.

If Dorgu hold down a place I could see Dalot a RWB and Maz being used at right side of 3 Centre Halfs. But whatever way, it gives way more options and cover

Genuinely World class, such a shame the way his career has panned out

I liked the part where he trotted out the "scored 30 goals 3 years ago" line.

Commentators haven't twigged yet that it just highlights how long this nonsense has been going on.

He hasn’t got the legs for that LWB position. No doubt Shaw will get injured again anyway but less chance of that happening with him playing at LCB.

With Dorgu taking the LWB position, it’ll be interesting to see whether Amorim goes with Dalot or Mazraoui in the RWB position

Was thinking the same with Shaw. Probably only able for a half at LWB in the short term but could still see Dalot get minutes there when Dorgu is rotated. Good opportunity for Dorgu to get a lot of game time to develop.

Would think Dalot would be the preference at RWB. Bit more creative than Mazaroui and we are sorely lacking creating chances.

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2.5 years left on Shaw's contract and apparently on £150k a week. The chances of us finding a buyer at any decent value and who will afford his wages (unless he takes a cut) are slim.

Our best option is probably to continue trying to rehab him and as said, play him LCB rather than LWB in the hopes that he can stay upright for more than a few weeks.

That contract is just another in a long line of ridiculous decisions by previous ownership. Dorgu apparently coming on £60k contract.

Id be very happy if Madrid come in for Dalot in the summer. He's simply a passion merchant who compensates for his limitations with high fives. Poor defender, complacent, lacks concentration and always gives wingers space!

I think if Amorim gets his way he'll push for Quenda in the summer

Having a bit of a debate myself as to whether to point out the obvious counters to both of these gotcha points you think you have made....will confirm later.

He has to be a storyteller because his actual football analysis is shallow and inadequate. But I don't think he's great at that either tbh because he doesn't have an ounce of charisma.

I don't think much of Carl Anka either by the way, but at least he has some critical thinking ability.

There are lots of really high quality and engaging people to listen to about football in the online/podcast sphere but unfortunately there's a severe lack of talent among the majority of the ones who managed to get on the Utd gravy train.

But he isnt there to be a football analysis thats not what he does thats not his style of journalism so it isnt really fair to say he is inadequate its not what he does.

On the story telling fair enough thas subjective but i do find him interesting more times then not but he has a tendency to ramble a bit.

maybe try the devils in the details i think its called, not my favorite as i think the two lads are a bit arrogant but they certainly a lot more analysis based over entertainment based which seems to be talk of the devils market

Dalot being 'good', versatile and nearly always fit isnt given the importance it deserves.

Dorgu might aid in that repsect, but as it is if we assume Shaw is useless as a LWB option then we have

LWB - Dorgu, Dalot
RWB - Amad, Dalot, Dorgu (?), Mazraoui.

Sell Dalot and we have have to replace him with a LWB and RWB signing. IMO.

You’re completely misunderstanding what is meant by ‘barstool.’ It’s not about Andy Mitten’s history as a supporter or his connections (which nobody questioned), it’s about the style and quality of his analysis. Nobody questioned his attendance at matches - just the surface-level way he talks about football, which is exactly what barstool implies. It's fine, he is what he is. He's just not for me. Not a big deal.