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Weird Flex of having a Fireplace

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I think your problem is reading the journal comments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,179 ✭✭✭Cordell


    It was nice to sit in on sat night, with a battery powered radio and a bottle of wine.

    What exactly was so nice about it? I mean, if it's really that nice you would be doing it more often, not only once every few years when the electricity goes out. No, it wasn't nice, you only managed to make a bad situation a bit better.

    the older style houses are better set up for power outages

    Not really, modern houses are better insulated, will retain heat for longer, and depending on their electrical installation they can be made to work with a generator easier.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,163 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    LIke others I was confused about the flex bit and thought this was going to be a complaint that the fireplace has a plug in lead (flex).

    Agree strange language to use.

    Anyway, I got my totally inefficient gas fire removed and replaced with a new fireplace with inset stove.

    Best thing I ever did,house is so cosy. I use it most weekends, speaker on with good music and a glass of wine or a cuppa tea with a good book.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    It's only strange language if you are old, and out of touch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,273 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    . We went and got a gas tank heater and gas camp stove. Sorted within 2 hours.

    The fact that you had to do this somewhat proves the point that a fire is sometimes handy to have.

    If your elderly in laws lived far away and had no relatives close by, what would they have done?

    Strange thread.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    I lived all my life with an open fire and back boiler as the only heating - no oil, gas, or electric heating. Now, in the past 18 months, I have oil and was delighted to no longer have the hassle of the fireplace. But it pales in comparison to the incredible warmth provided by the fire and back boiler. That F-rated house is toasty, cosy, and plenty of hot water compared to this C-rated one. The fire and back boiler just blows the oil heating out of the water. I'm massively disappointed in oil heating and will at least get a stove as soon as I can afford one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,163 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Everyone's Out of step except my Johnny.

    No one knows what it is because it is weird slang and no one speaks like that in real life.

    Funny thread and not in a ha ha way.

    Is it a real thing that people boast about having a fireplace. ?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,512 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    is the oil system fully serviced/in good working order? my parents in law have a stove with a back boiler and it's about on a par with their oil heating.

    i'd find it hard to believe that an open fire - which is about one third as efficient as a stove - could knock a dedicated oil fired boiler into an open hat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    Yes it's an 8 year old Grant Vortex 90-120 and has been serviced regularly and deemed to be in excellent working order.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭phormium


    I have an open fire, light it every night in this weather, no back boiler, gives me a lovely toasty sitting room. I only have to clean it out once a week at most, don't mind ordering a few bags of coal (smokeless) every now and then or even the job of lighting it, it's not a big job by any means as I just put small amount on as it's around 6 when I light it so doesn't need any more over the night, couple of logs maybe to give a bit of flame. My only gripe with the smokeless is it looks like an artificial fire when it heats up as no flames hence I like a log or two as well

    I also have the new type Super Ser which I use in the kitchen during the day when needed rather than have central heating on all day. I have gas hob too as it happens, no issues with cleaning it that I have noticed, it's glass and very easy to give a wipe to when needed.

    Wont ever have the full electric house here as not going doing all that retro fitting that would be needed to make it work, fine for new houses or if you have a ton of money to spend but realistically a lot of older houses are going to have to remain as they are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭These Are Facts


    Think Scotland was going to ban log burners (often placed in the fireplace) to save the planet etc, but may have changed their mind since, realising much of it is located north of Moscow and gets chilly storms every other week.

    Would never take out the fireplace, which seems to be a trend with some folks. If there's a draught from it when not in use, simply use something portable in front to block off the wind when not in use.

    At least there'll be no shortage of wood available in a couple of years, once dried out to a low water content percentage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,692 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Fireplace and back boiler always worked well for me . I'd still put one in if I was building a house



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,692 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    There balloon that fit up a chimney to bla k drafts and work well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭baxterooneydoody


    People flexing about fires come a poor second to the **** with the generator in the shed and the change over switch, if I've heard change over switch once I've heard it 50 times since last Saturday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,775 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I think may have less to do with anyone "flexing" and more to do with just plain old jealousy. People without a fireplace to fall back on maybe just a little green with envy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,775 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    What exactly was so nice about it? I mean, if it's really that nice you would be doing it more often, not only once every few years when the electricity goes out. No, it wasn't nice, you only managed to make a bad situation a bit better.

    You do know that something done on a very infrequent occasion can be a nice thing no? Nice things don't HAVE to be done every night of the week.

    We had a power outage a few years ago, so the electricity was gone and our gas has an electric controller so that was gone as well. So we lit up the fire, opened a bottle of wine and sat there cooking some sausages on the open fire having a chat.

    It was, guess what, nice.

    But that doesn't mean I'd want to have to do that every night of the week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    They are too old to be dealing with an open fire and would have to keep the chimney maintained also have fuel stored. Power outages in Dublin suburbs is extremely rare and rarer to last any length of time. If it was an ongoing concern we would have had it all ready. Shops also deliver.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Go read the comments and people were dismissing modern heating and boasting about open fires. If there was any jealousy it would appear to be people with people with open fires dismissing modern heating.

    Open fire are grossly inefficient and heavy on pollution inside and outside the property. Some of of us are old enough to remember smog and that was because it was very visible but the pollution from open fires remains.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,775 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    People who are in a position of heating themselves during a power cut are hardly going to be jealous of those who can't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    wtf does flex mean in this context? I assume it is 'to flex' as in a verb? explain yourself! :)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Some people didn't know what it meant and it really doesn't require massive research to look it up. Suggesting it isn't said in real life just means you have limited exposure to language. It also doesn't take much thought to infer the meaning from use and understanding the original use of the word.

    Effectively you are delighting in your own ignorance and dismissing modern use of the language you speak. I do find your view on this to be the funny approach. There are words people use I don't know and I look them up, old and new words

    Yes people were boasting as per the link and even comments here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    I didn't make it up there is proof there in the comments on The Journal. Yes people can certainly be jealous about things they don't have and go gloating when it fails which is what they did



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Read the the thread, look up the definition or think for a minute.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,512 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    muscle flex. as in flexing your muscles to show off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,775 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I've yet to meet anyone who's been "boasting" about having an open fire to fall back on if there's a power cut. I've met numerous people who were thankful that they did, especially those who live in the middle of a field where it can drop to minus figures when the sun goes down. But that's a different thing.

    Anyone boasting about having a fireplace you can safely dump in the trolling bin and not get worked up about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Did you read the comments? I didn't meet them either but they are free to read. If you want to argue their comments meant something else we can discuss on that but you seem to want to deny the comments exist



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,595 ✭✭✭SteM


    I tried one when we had an open fireplace and it didn't work well for me to be honest, kept leaking air.

    We have an insert stove now and we light a fair bit in the winter. Don't know why people complain about cleaning them out, it has an ash pan and takes about 30 seconds. Then I might clean the stove window from time to time and get someone in once a year to sweep the chimney but that's it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,194 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    With gas you get more heat and faster

    Have to completely disagree with you on that one.

    Yes the gas provides more heat, but most of it is wasted… and as for being faster than induction!!, not in a million years..

    I have a gas hob, and since getting solar panels a few years back, bought a portable induction hob from Ikea for €50, and it is much much more quicker to heat anything up on the induction hob vs the gas..

    The induction hob was bought to use excess solar rather than gas in the summer, but it's at the point where I'll use it even in winter to bring a pot to the boil before then transferring it to a gas ring to simmer at the lowest setting, as its just faster & more efficient to heat up using the induction hob vs gas hob.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    If all you say is true why don't commercial kitchens use it?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭rowantree18


    For those who like the storm-proof solid fuel type of heating, I never understood our irish obsession with open fires which are drafty and inefficient. In Central Europe (places like Austria, Bavaria, Slovenia, parts of Italy) they use big built in ceramic stoves. Some are big enough to lie on. They're built typically in an open plan kitchen living area and the opening is a small hatch in the hall usually, I've seen people feed a few logs in, and within an hour the whole thing is roasting as tge ceramic holds the heat. It's ike a gigantic radiator in the room. No draft and fantastically efficient.



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