Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Hamas have agreed to recognise the existence of the state of Israel according to the 67 borders.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/01/hamas-new-charter-palestine-israel-1967-borders

Well in this new world when we replace all funding of remembrances for, and mentions in textbooks of, the European deaths with the Chinese ones, we must complete the mirroring by making sure that when remembering the killing of Chinese citizens by occupation forces, no mention must ever be made of anything negative the Chinese might have done either internally or externally. Else it will be anti-Chinese racism. We can pretend those never happened.

That will keep you happy, will keep the Chinese happy, and will keep the lovely money flowing.

Here is some footage of one of the protesters being removed and an interview with the young lady afterwards.

Seems like a nice lady with conviction, and this whole thing is very emotive for her. She shouldn't have been removed for peaceful protest.

You also couldn't blame Michael d Higgins for heavy handed bouncers though - those organising the event would have hired them I assume. Who organized it?

It is a shame we couldn't get from her what he said that caused her to stand up and protest, as personally I don't see anything in his speech that unfairly targeted Israel.

She mentioned his comments on the embassy closing, but they were comments made at another date - not at the holocaust event. And with the absolute slander that Ireland (and he himself) had to endure, I understand why he made those comments.

She also mentioned people calling for a one state solution - I haven't seen anyone in official Ireland say that, quite the opposite. I'm not sure where she heard that. She herself said she is up for a two state solution, so has more in common with the Irish position than the Israeli government.

Putin and Netanyahu are so similar too with their indiscriminate bombings of civilian areas in order to cause maximum deaths among civilians.

Exactly. Why should Irish people feel like they can't speak their minds in their own country. The President is 100% right and said nothing that the vast majority of out population don't agree with. Far too much reverence paid on here to a shower of Genociders.

Sure, Israel couldn't cope any longer and allowed the US to vote in favour of the resolution.

Now, we're still waiting for your personal definition of holocaust. Or do you have one - because if not the word is meaningless.

It is certainly interesting that 7 of 9 judges on the US supreme court are catholics, and as you say that doubtless colours their interpretation of the law. Clearly there is something wrong with a system that allows members of a single specific minority so much power.

Given that you have accepted that point, you will doubtless also agree that the large number of zionist jews in Biden's administration coloured that government's actions. But the question is of course how it came to be that Biden appointed so many members of a single, minuscule minority. It's well known that Biden is a committed zionist - or at least he was when his brain functioned.

What made him go out on such a limb? Who or what was he beholden to? The question is important, because in the USA it's not hard to find committed zionists of all religions (bar Islam perhaps) so he could have camouflaged the situation by appointing individuals from a broader cross-section of society. To say "it's a meritocracy" is tantamount to saying that jews are exceptional, that among the 330 million or so non-jews in the state he couldn't find more than 18 who merited a position in his government. And such a comment is anti-gentileism.

He wasn't having a go at all. He was telling things as they are. If they don't like the truth then that's on them. The President didn't tell any lies.

A few jewish groups asked the elected president of our country not to speak at a ceremony he had been invited to speak at, surely they are the ones politicising the event?

I mean who do they think they are? Who do they represent and what standing do they have in our country, in comparison to Higgins, who received 56% of the votes in 2018?

BTW, can you tell us what opinion the Roma/Sinti in Ireland expressed on the matter?

October 7th was a turning point for Jews and Israelis in Ireland. Life has become very different and difficult for them since then. They are subjected to abuse on a daily basis. Some people will call that anti-Semitism, while others will argue it’s anti-Zionism. Call it what you want, but I don’t think it’s something the people of this country should be proud of. Nobody should be subject to abuse because of their religion, nationality, sexual orientation and such in this country.

If a person is a soldier in an army engaged in committing genocide, personally I don't think they should even be allowed in the country no matter their ethnicity/ religion. Afaik, isis members were not welcome in Ireland.

I haven't heard of any Jewish people experiencing anti semitism in Ireland, in fact things like the Jewish bakery have always been trendy. I hope that's not the case now, I have to admit there's only one Irish Jew I knew personally and he was a really nice guy, so would be sad if such things were happening.

I hope Jewish people in Ireland understand that being against genocide is not the same as being anti Semitic.

17 people are of the Jewish faith in Biden's administration of thousands of people

We're not talking about Biden's administration, we're talking about his cabinet. I didn't realise it was 17, the graphic only shows 10.

In any case, we're not talking about jews, we're talking about zionists who are also jews.

Why didn't Biden have at least 10 black people in his cabinet? Is it because they are incapable (which would surely be racist)? We know that's there are plenty of black people in the US who are competent enough to be in government; or do you claim different?

The reality is that Biden and every US president chooses his cabinet out of those he likes/shares political objectives with/is beholden to, so who was Biden beholden to, or what other reason did he have to choose so many zionists from a specific minority over other equally competent people (zionists) with other backgrounds?

But if it’s a case of people being against genocide, why is the Hamas flag flown at pro-Palestine marches in Dublin? Hamas’ genocidal ideology is clearly laid out in their covenant. Or is it considered acceptable to fly it simply because they haven’t been able to commit genocide yet? I have another follow up question based on your responses to the above.

Nobody should be subject to abuse because of their religion, nationality, sexual orientation and such in this country.

An admirable concept. Do you think it should apply to Israel and Palestine as a whole too?