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Weird Flex of having a Fireplace

  • 27-01-2025 10:51AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭


    I was on another thread here about a person removing a fireplace from their house. Some people mentioned that if the power went out they could still light a fire to stay warm. Then we had the storm and a similar boasts came from comments on The Journal and ridicule of people using electric heating systems and heat pumps. One guy bragging about their back boiler and open fire. I briefly lived in a house with the same set-up and the back boiler was useless and the fire only really kept one room warm and a small amount of lukewarm water.

    So my elderly in-laws had their electricity go out so no heating or cooking. We went and got a gas tank heater and gas camp stove. Sorted within 2 hours. Electricity came back within 20 hours of going out.

    Anyway majority of my life I had gas central heating and never really had to deal with a real fire. The idea of getting deliveries and storage of fuel, cleaning the fire out and chimney maintenance just sounds like a lot of hassle. What just seems so strange is the flex of having a real fire and poking fun at people using modern heating systems like they are so clever for sticking with burning solid fuel. A minor inconvenience was all it was but a lot less inconvenience of having to use an open fire regularly.

    I do get real fires are lovely to look at.



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  • Posts: 697 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah I have a Dimplex heater which looks like a fire. Great heat, has the cosy look of a fire, but just plug in/out.

    People are constantly, inanely going on about stuff you'd find anywhere being typically Irish, but I do think that it does apply to the obsession with solid fuel fires (such a hassle and mess to me) and - unsurprisingly - potatoes (along with Eastern Europeans and Idahoans).

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  • Site Banned Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    I have an insert stove, I love it.

    My mam hasn't had electricity since the storm, she has a little log burner, she loves it.

    My friend lives in a new house with new heating system. She's freezing since the storm.

    I don't understand what flex is?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭89897


    People just like to flex over others for any reason they can!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,728 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    The last house I lived in (family home) had a wood burning stove. Great heat from it, and you could cook on it in a pinch, but the effort and hassle in obtaining and storing fuel, cleaning it out not to mention lighting the damn thing is not to be underestimated. My father was on warfarin to prevent strokes which made him very sensitive to the cold and he liked to keep the sitting room at a balmy 22 degrees. We also had oil-based heating, and hot water for showers was powered by solar. With no power, we were grand.

    Where I live now, all cooking is electricity based. Gas powered central heating - which wont work if there is no power. I bought a Hexi stove in case we lost power so I could cook something. I also have a portable barbecue but I'd have to wait for the wind to die down.

    In an urban or sub-urban environment, I'd expect power going to be rare and only for short periods. In a rural setting, like my family home was, I think it's wise to have the best of all worlds because prolonged periods with no power is possible and indeed likely.

    If I moved into somewhere that had a fireplace, no way would I be removing it. Most likely get a cover for it, so the heat in the room is not being sucked up the chimney.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,704 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Its hilarious. People will have an open fireplace heats the room unevenly, but promotes draughts that cool their house through heat loss, (this gets worse in colder weather) that also has the worst fuel to heat ratio of any heating method, and very high cost of fuel, and toxic fumes that give people in the room a much higher chance of developing respiratory conditions over their lifetime, and toxic dust that they breath in every time they clean the thing, and then mock people who have cheaper, more efficient, more convenient, more reliable heating that doesn't actively try to poison them.

    If you need a backup heater, one of those gas canister heaters can do the trick if the electricity is gone for a few days

    They even come with CO monitors so you're safe from carbon monoxide

    One of these would keep you warm, especially if you're using it in a well insulated house

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,179 ✭✭✭Cordell


    There's no reason to flex for having a fireplace while electricity goes out. Yes, you won't freeze, but you'll be in one room, in the dark, food rotting in the fridge, no internet, no hot water, or even no water at all. If anything, having a generator will be a much better reason to flex.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,353 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    The world has turned into a funny place. Objectively better heating systems 99% of the time, like heat pumps are ridiculed as part of the renewable push-back.

    It's worth noting that most solid fuel systems won't work without electricity either as most require pumps that have to be driven by something.

    That said, modern homes are completely dependent on electricity and people should be implementing redundancy plans for loss of power



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Why doesn't your friend just get a gas canister heater like I did? Newer house is probably well insulated so it would work well. The point I was making is it is easy to address the issue and slight inconvenience over the ongoing inconvenience of burning solid fuel.

    You don't know what the word "flex" means?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,967 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Yes, a gas cannister heater (aka a SuperSer) is a good thing to have as a backup for situations like powercuts. My parents got rid of their 1970s era heaters in about 2000 but I still have a butane bottle from then which came in very useful this weekend with a camping ring. The bottle takes up very little room in the garage and obviously the gas is still fine 25 years later.

    I've found that some people don't want to hear about this sort of thing. Maybe SuperSers are unwelcome reminders of the 70s and 80s. But a worse reminder IMO is burning solid fuel in open fires, bags of coal, heat going up the chimney, back boilers, clearing out ashes etc. Fcuk that.



  • Posts: 697 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The SuperSer was the biz in my freezing cold home in the '80s/early '90s.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭L Grey


    If someone is flexing over having a fireplace, its safe to say they are notorious pedos.

    Its science, look it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭jayobray


    I have an open fire, we use it during the winter, mainly on weekends. I also have oil which works on an electric switch. We like having it, not much hassle with it. But I certainly wouldn't be flexing or cheerleading about having it, it's just our choice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭fits


    The gas hob is another thing. I would rather cook on a camping gas hob for a week than have to clean a gas hob for ten years ( and inhale its fumes).
    Induction hobs are superior in every way.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,431 ✭✭✭blackbox


    I thought flexing was referring to the ability to be flexible about the type of fuel you use.

    I've never heard of it being used as an insult - is this a locality thing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    It means 'showing off' or 'boasting', originally coming from early 20th century African-American slang.

    https://www.planoly.com/glossary/flex



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Nope. I don't. Sorry. Unless you mean the electric cable out of some electric equipment!

    I'd imagine she will be investing in something else now alright



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,062 ✭✭✭cml387


    Why not just use "boast" then rather than some obscure American slang? Is it to show you are hip and down wid de kidz?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,967 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Arnold Schwarzenegger biceps flex - for that authentic 1980s experience. Won't go too well with the Neff appliances and granite countertops though.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    We're getting in a back boiler stoves to heat hot water and rads. Our old back boiler, 40+ years old, just gave up last week.

    Love the fire and never mind cleaning out and buying smokeless fuel, which I buy by the tonne.

    Whatever suits each home is good for them is my take on it.

    And the only fkex I know of is the bloody one I trip over occasionally when it's left lying around😀



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Ah yes all the top chefs and fancy restaurant kitchens use induction.

    Lot more control when cooking with gas and as most people use extractor fans when cooking so the fumes aren't really an issue.

    I must admit I never though of the cleaning being an issue but you have a point to an extent. The thing is you don't spill food when cooking every time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭Mr Disco


    glenroe was great tv !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,741 ✭✭✭yagan


    I cut down a load of garden overgrowth and it pretty much fueled the fireplace for a winter. I gotta say I love having an open fire, don't mind cleaning it. In the darkest, dankest time of year looking at a flicking fire can be far more relaxing than trying to find anything interesting on the TV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,179 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Induction hobs are not superior in every way, for start they are much more expensive to buy and run, but indeed they are more convenient and good enough for almost all home cooking. With gas you get more heat and faster, and there are no fumes unless you burn the food, gas burns extremely clean if the cooker is well maintained. That being said I 100% prefer electric hob and oven over gas ones, but I'm no chef.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,975 ✭✭✭Hooked


    Move aside while I flex my TWO fireplaces. LOL

    We actually found very little to complain about after the storm - despite having no power for 3 days. We have a large stove in the living room and an open fire in (another flex incoming) the man cave/home bar. Gas 5 burner cooker. Stovetop whistling kettle. Plenty of USB and Led lighting. And a campervan with leisure batteries onboard for charging anything 12v.

    We burn coal, wood and eco briquettes but have a large garage to store fuel, the camper and all of the tools and things that you need to gather when you commit to living in the country. Only downside was having to cut down a few trees that were damaged - but that means more logs for the fire once they're dried out! Every cloud. We left the freezer shut - and put the milk, butter, meats, etc… outside to keep it fresh and cold. All we missed was the oil fired central heating. Nothing a second duvet wouldn't solve.

    It was nice to sit in on sat night, with a battery powered radio and a bottle of wine. And the sky/stars with zero 'outside' lighting interfering were incredible!

    I short - and ironically - the older style houses are better set up for power outages. Open fire and gas hob for the win!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    I am using common common vernacular of the times I live in not some "obscure" American slang. Urban dictionary claim it is only in use 20 years is pretty doubtful. Pretty common images of body builders "flexing" is over 100 years old.

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    Why some people don't look up definitions for words they don't understand is much weirder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


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  • Posts: 697 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah what do you mean by flex here OP?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Did you just ignore the rest of the posts? Meaning is to boast



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Here is the article from The Journal. Read the comments



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