Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

Trump cannot seek a third term unless there is an amendment to the US Constitution, as we all know, and that requires two thirds of both houses, so unless the Democratic party get utterly decimated in the 2026 midterms, it won't happen by procedural means, no matter how many bent judges Trump manages to install. More likely some kind of 'national emergency - elections suspended' jiggerypokery.

He would definitely need to be out on the campaign trail in some way because the one big weakness of MAGA is that Trump is the lynchpin. It can't really exist independently from him, and this is the way that the narcissistic Trump likes it.

How many undocumented Irish are there in the States, and how many of those are lads chancing their arm by overstaying the J1, as opposed to people who've built some sort of life there by working under the table? The first group are essentially there for the craic. Not the end of the world if they get deported. Obviously the second group would try to avoid such a fate, but then there are already noises from Republican politicians of Irish background to set up a framework that would allow undocumented Irish a pathway to staying.

https://www.rte.ie/news/us/2024/1113/1480614-state-of-mind-irish-immigrants/

Something tells me that some immigrant groups will be treated harsher than others in this whole episode…

No, he tried to malignly influence the election obviously but he was not able to rig it by successfully interfering in the actual counting of votes or assinating/imprisoning political enemies etc. If he actually rigged the 2020 election he'd have won. He didn't.

There was a systematic effort to hobble the functioning of the US Postal Service as well as a intensive pre-amble to pretend that postal voting was rife with voter fraud (which it wasn’t).

The first was an expansion of GOP policy to make voting difficult for non-GOP voters, which is election interference and amounts to rigging. The second was essentially Donnie’s excuse for a Plan B where he’d use a fiction to cry foul and somehow stay put. Luckily he was feckless on both counts and it didn’t work.

Make no mistake, Donnie only respects a vote he wins, and has no respect for any law or regulation that goes against what he wants. He even tried to get a state to “find” the votes he needed to win FFS. He tried to rig it and failed.

If you review my posts, you'll see I'm not making the argument you think I am.

I acknowledge he attempted to rig it, but ultimately, he failed - he did not rig the 2020 election. My point is this: how will the Democrats ensure he fails to actually rig the 2028 election, when the conditions for him to actually succeed will likely be far more favorable?

This is why people are so polarised. I mention the new passports & Trump's merit announcement, and suddenly I'm "targeting" trans people.

I have said what I said and I didn't target anybody.

That is an important question. The Dems have 2 years to hopefully learn from 2024 and retake the House. In the meantime they need to work hard to prevent MAGA from trying to ensure that Donnie can rig stuff.

One silver lining to current makeup of the US is that voting management & regulations are still handled at the state level. So states that aren’t completely forgone down the MAGA rabbithole can maintain election integrity. This will become especially important when Donnie learns how far down his approval rating can go after all this nouveax-Nazi BS he and his collection of gouls have been up to this week.

I guess you are refering to post #6773 (which wasn't posted by me), although I subsequently posted that "I agreed on both counts".

I presume that's what you're on about.

Actually, originally all you said was 'new' passports, which piqued my interest, and it turns out they're not new - the new passports with the high tech embedded stuff came earlier, but the removal of the ability to put X for your gender wasn't mentioned by you at all.

Now, if you'd been more open and said something like "the Trump administration's ongoing scapegoating of trans people through its gender recognition announcement, has had a trickle-on effect of disallowing X in gender selection in a passport <link>, and I'm cool with that," that'd be polarising. But you didn't.

However, you did in fact cause people to be aware of the problem and then went on to slag DEI, I'd say, yeah, you're targeting plenty of people and you're trolling.

Hope that clarifies.

The illegal Irish will probably be fine because they're lily-white. Meanwhile, Navajos are being held up in ICE raids.

You finish by saying

"However, you did in fact cause people to be aware of the problem and then went on to slag DEI, I'd say, yeah, you're targeting plenty of people and you're trolling. Hope that clarifies."

What can I say? it's a consistent accusation used against me and my posts, (which don't look like trolling to me) but I obviously upset quite a few of you. I'm just back from a months ban for trolling, so at this point I think I'll remove myself from this thread, before I'm banned Again.

Regarding the passports, the new Trump passports have male & female only, without the X option, seems clear to me, but has obviously irked a few of you, same with my stance on the demise of DEI which I agree with, as I like Trumps merit based approach!

I'll look in the odd time, but I won't post here anymore as the bans usually take me out of the whole current affairs forum for weeks at a time.

Cheers.

Well as the President of Mexico said, he can call it what he likes, the rest of us don't have to go along with it.